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This Day in History: Watermelons Help Secure AR15 Military Order
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07-11-2019, 12:08 PM | #2 |
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Some neat photos in that article. I'll bet Curtis LeMay would be surprised to know his melon-buster is still going strong today, albeit in a somewhat different configuration.
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07-11-2019, 12:57 PM | #3 |
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07-12-2019, 09:17 AM | #4 |
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Should have gone with the FAL.
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07-12-2019, 11:07 AM | #5 |
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You'll get no argument from me on that.
Someone should have pointed out to the good general that those were watermelons, not motivated enemies trying to kill him. While the .22 makes holes, the .308 caliber makes bigger holes - in one side and out the other, and can turn cover into concealment. |
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I also believe the effects of hydrosatic shock is a great killer. |
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07-13-2019, 01:24 AM | #8 |
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The original M16s got their first big test in the jungles of Vietnam, and it was in a bad way the second it got out of the crate.
. The Brass had told the men in the field that the rifles were self-cleaning (mistake number 1) and as such, were not issued with cleaning kits (mistake number 2). The third and final mistake that tipped the reliability of the M16 over the deep end was that the Brass had ordered ammunition with ball powder that was of a very dirty burning composition, and loaded to a higher pressure. The original AR15 was designed around the .223/5.56x45 cartridge that used tubular powder. All three of these factors gave the M16 the horrible reputation that they were branded with for the next decade.
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I remember seeing men carrying them
wrapped in plastic in the field on the CBS news... |
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Don't think they would be wanting to put them in plastic bags out in the bush? Without the cameras on em they would have used that plastic to keep themselves dry to hell with the weapon it will still work wet or dry. |
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07-13-2019, 07:57 AM | #11 |
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I figured that it was staged...
IIRC it was a ‘hit piece’ on how unreliable the M-16 was... It seems that Dan Rather was the corespondent, IIRC... A regular CBS Hit on everything American |
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Seeded or seedless watermelon?
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07-14-2019, 11:09 PM | #13 |
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So spend a shitton developing the M14, adopt it, and 4-5 years later begin looking for something else? Sounds about right.
The AR platform obviously works, and is wildly successful, no argument there. Just seems to me, that from what I've read, guys in Vietnam loved the M14 much more than the M16, along with the designated marksmen thirty years later. Not saying the M14 was the answer, but I'm not sold on it being the AR15 platform either. Just some civilian rambling about a somewhat interesting/irritating topic. |
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Colt started massive production of the M-16 before they were even awarded the military contract. Toss a few bucks in the right hands show them the train load of M-16s ready to go and guess what? They new DAMN well the weapon had flaws but who cares money talks nobody walks. Thank you Colt. |
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