Bond arms Cyclops derringer in 45-70

klauss · 02-15-2023, 08:07 PM

https://www.bondarms.com/Cyclops-Coming-Soon-P8582.aspx

Wonder what firing this thing would do for my carpal tunnel?

aviator · 02-16-2023, 06:55 AM

ouch!

Sanders · 02-16-2023, 08:42 AM

Not a fan of the derringer, myself. I have a cousin who absolutely loves them. He always has one on his person, at least one. I'm sure he's already ordered one of these.

MrKalashnikov · 02-16-2023, 11:15 AM

That's insane putting that round in a derringer.

klauss · 02-16-2023, 05:59 PM

Can’t help but think of this scene from 3 amigos

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/knAfk6OqnmI

Johnny · 02-16-2023, 07:45 PM

I don't own a derringer, but wouldn't mind having one. That said... The ideal caliber would be no greater than .38 special, preferably .22LR or .22 MAG.

GBob01 · 02-17-2023, 05:50 PM

Sorry, but for $700 I want a little more that a single shot .

Solid Snake · 02-18-2023, 04:03 PM

Novelty gun at best. Pass.

Sanders · 02-19-2023, 05:32 PM

I was able to handle one of these today at a gun show. It was like grabbing a hold of a brick.

Novelty at best, although I bet it would take a .410 shotshell, which would be more useful than a .45-70.

Solid Snake · 02-24-2023, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanders

I was able to handle one of these today at a gun show. It was like grabbing a hold of a brick.

Novelty at best, although I bet it would take a .410 shotshell, which would be more useful than a .45-70.

Yeah, but for less money you could get a Taurus Judge. Four more rounds. I think it would make a pretty good varmint or snake gun while hiking through the woods.

GimpyPaw · 02-25-2023, 02:13 AM

I'd be interested to see some chronograph data on this vs say a .45 Long Colt in same length barrels.

Bond Arms 45/70 = 4.5" barrel
45/70 cartridge spec is 2.55" OAL
45 Colt spec is 1.6" OAL

Usually 1" isn't significant in gaining velocity, but when you're looking at tip of bullet to muzzle distances of 1.95" vs 2.9" suddenly 1" is roughly a 50% gain. I have a feeling the barrel is going to be so short it's just not going to make enough pressure to justify itself over a pistol cartridge.

Go with the 45 Colt, you get 2 shots instead of 1, and can still shoot 410 shot shell.

9teen11 · 02-26-2023, 04:44 AM

That thing would cause blood loss at both ends if it was fired in anger

klauss · 02-26-2023, 08:55 AM

I’ll be honest

I doubt I would ever buy the thing unless I was rich and bored. But it’s interesting someone came up with it, wonder what the thought process was in deciding to make it.

doug11606 · 02-26-2023, 11:18 AM

I have a Cobra 32 mag derringer, good to throw in your pocket on your way out the door if in a hurry. It is about as big of derringer I would want to fire safely.
P.S. would not recommend a Cobra derringer unless you have a trigger job done on it. Had one of the worst trigger pulIs I have felt before doing mine.

02-15-2023, 08:07 PM	#1
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 4,064	Bond arms Cyclops derringer in 45-70 https://www.bondarms.com/Cyclops-Coming-Soon-P8582.aspx Wonder what firing this thing would do for my carpal tunnel? __________________ alterius non sit qui suus esse potest!-"Let no man belong to another who can belong to himself." Heîs oiōnòs áristos, amýnesthai perì pátrēs- "There is only one omen, to fight for one's country"

02-16-2023, 06:55 AM	#2
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,383	ouch! __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Pesident Ronald Reagan

02-16-2023, 08:42 AM	#3
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,460	Not a fan of the derringer, myself. I have a cousin who absolutely loves them. He always has one on his person, at least one. I'm sure he's already ordered one of these. __________________ "The truly dangerous man dresses inconspicuously and is soft- spoken. He walks away from most confrontations. The only time you learn that the truly dangerous man is mad at you is a split second before you die, for he never fights. He only kills. The truly dangerous man knows that fighting is what children do and killing is what men do." - Charley Reese 1986 3

02-17-2023, 05:50 PM	#7
GBob01 Coonass Crusader Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: backwoods of south Louisiana Posts: 4,491	Sorry, but for $700 I want a little more that a single shot . __________________ I do not believe that the Democrats are single-handedly destroying this country. I know that they, like the Republicans, are using both hands! *III DEO VINDICE*

02-18-2023, 04:03 PM	#8
Solid Snake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 2,518	Novelty gun at best. Pass. __________________ End of line.

02-16-2023, 11:15 AM	#4
MrKalashnikov Deplorable Join Date: May 2008 Location: Behind The Iron Curtain Posts: 8,056	That's insane putting that round in a derringer.

02-16-2023, 05:59 PM	#5
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 4,064	Can’t help but think of this scene from 3 amigos https://m.youtube.com/shorts/knAfk6OqnmI

02-16-2023, 07:45 PM	#6
Johnny Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,203	I don't own a derringer, but wouldn't mind having one. That said... The ideal caliber would be no greater than .38 special, preferably .22LR or .22 MAG.

02-19-2023, 05:32 PM	#9
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,460	I was able to handle one of these today at a gun show. It was like grabbing a hold of a brick. Novelty at best, although I bet it would take a .410 shotshell, which would be more useful than a .45-70.

02-25-2023, 02:13 AM	#11
GimpyPaw Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Oregon Posts: 649	I'd be interested to see some chronograph data on this vs say a .45 Long Colt in same length barrels. Bond Arms 45/70 = 4.5" barrel 45/70 cartridge spec is 2.55" OAL 45 Colt spec is 1.6" OAL Usually 1" isn't significant in gaining velocity, but when you're looking at tip of bullet to muzzle distances of 1.95" vs 2.9" suddenly 1" is roughly a 50% gain. I have a feeling the barrel is going to be so short it's just not going to make enough pressure to justify itself over a pistol cartridge. Go with the 45 Colt, you get 2 shots instead of 1, and can still shoot 410 shot shell.

02-26-2023, 04:44 AM	#12
9teen11 PERMANENTLY BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,080	That thing would cause blood loss at both ends if it was fired in anger

02-26-2023, 08:55 AM	#13
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 4,064	I’ll be honest I doubt I would ever buy the thing unless I was rich and bored. But it’s interesting someone came up with it, wonder what the thought process was in deciding to make it.

02-26-2023, 11:18 AM	#14
doug11606 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fort Wayne Posts: 664	I have a Cobra 32 mag derringer, good to throw in your pocket on your way out the door if in a hurry. It is about as big of derringer I would want to fire safely. P.S. would not recommend a Cobra derringer unless you have a trigger job done on it. Had one of the worst trigger pulIs I have felt before doing mine. __________________ 3