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Old 12-18-2023, 04:50 PM   #16
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For one U.S. Army unit, the intervention of Chinese Communist Forces (CCF) resulted in absolute disaster. The 31st Regimental Combat Team, better known as Task Force MacLean (later known as Task Force Faith), comprised of elements of the 7th Infantry Division, was virtually annihilated east of the Chosin Reservoir.

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50 Years Later, an Army Force Gets Its Due

For four days and five nights 50 years ago at North Korea's Chosin Reservoir, an Army force of more than 2,500 soldiers had faced a relentless Chinese onslaught, fending off terrifying night attacks in hand-to-hand combat. Now, as the Army troops withdrew, the Chinese had blocked the convoy, turning the road into a killing zone.


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ADD: A Marine Chaplin wrote they were cowards who ran. They were BEGGING the A hole Army General for ammo so they could fight. He said 'Good luck' and flew home to his hot meal and warm tent.
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My dad may have been around the Chosin reservoir at some point during his time in Korea, but not during that battle which was in November 1950. He didn't enter active service until October 1950. No way could he have been there.

Regardless, he killed his share of Norks and Chicoms.
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Old 12-18-2023, 06:51 PM   #19
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My dad may have been around the Chosin reservoir at some point during his time in Korea, but not during that battle which was in November 1950. He didn't enter active service until October 1950. No way could he have been there.

Regardless, he killed his share of Norks and Chicoms.
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Old 12-19-2023, 03:47 AM   #20
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My takeaway from the article is that the (lack of) discipline problem in the military is way worse than I thought it was.

Deployed soldiers on TicTok? Man, just send the Chinese an invitation, already! Purple hair? Open bitching about officers and NCOs on social media? Damn! Just damn!

This shit is downright subversive treason.



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There's an old Army saying: "A bitching soldier is a happy soldier." I spent a good portion of my Army career around "happy" soldiers. During serious or dangerous times, the bitching stops. Everyone might complain about eggs in the chow hall, but during a miserable time outside the wire, you don't hear a peep. Soldiers are kinda wired that way.

I agree with you. Things have really spiraled out of control when soldiers are allowed to post what are essentially subversive comments on social media to an audience numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Granted; some of their complaints might have merit, but having people from within air their dirty laundry to the world does nothing for force readiness.

From almost the first day of military service, we were always cautioned not to speak to the press. All requests for comment should be directed to the public affairs officer. Apparently, things have changed quite a bit since I left the service. Nowadays, anything goes.

I'm a "freedom of speech" kinda guy but I think these Tic Tok influencers have gone too far and are impacting combat readiness. I think it's way past time time for the US Military to reign in these social media clowns.

It's perfectly OK for these people to bash the military when they're discharged and no longer serving. But when they ARE serving and drawing a paycheck, they need to STFU.
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Old 12-19-2023, 06:57 AM   #21
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Agreed. I liked mess hall food.
We had the best chow hall on Ft. Carson, or so I thought. Once a month, on the last Friday of the month, they served steak and lobster. It was dang good food.

But then, our company got attached to a tank battalion next to us, and we were expected, as part of that unit, to eat in their chow hall. Well, we soon learned why all the tankers were fat. Their food was even better than ours!

The only "bad" food, relative to those was the midnight mess up the road. Seems like it must have been a shit detail for the cooks, because the food coming out of that chow hall was way below standards - edible, but barely.

Then, in Germany, I discovered my meal card worked at the Air Force base "Dining Fah-cil-a-tee", and holy beef tips and gravy, Batman! That food was way better than ours! We'd hit the club at Lindsay Air Force base in Wiesbaden to pick up American chicks, when we got tired of the German girls. It was no contest for us when those girls met rock hard Infantrymen vs. the candy-ass Air Force dudes they were used to -- we were the "bad boys" they all craved.
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Agreed. I liked mess hall food.
I liked the way they made omelets in Marine Corps chow halls. You would get your own fillings from the salad bar (diced ham, cheese, mushrooms, tomatoes, green peppers, etc.) and hand them to one of the omelet cooks. That way, if your omelet had too many peppers, not enough cheese, etc., it was on you not them.
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I didn't like the MREs. But I liked the old C rats. The K rats were OK, but not as good as C rats.
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I didn't like the MREs. But I liked the old C rats. The K rats were OK, but not as good as C rats.
Same here. MREs are just vile. No other way to describe them. C rats were edible.

Army DFACs served pretty good food most of the time. You 'Nam vets aren't gonna like this, but the food they served us on deployment was fantastic; best I ever had in the military. Much of it rivaled nice restaurants. The only complaint I had is that they could not cook steak. I think they boiled it. It was just nasty, and a waste of great cuts of meat. Everything else was delicious.

In Tikrit, all the food service workers were dot Indians. Every evening meal, they prepared a special section of real authentic Indian food. Soldiers loved it. The workers were super nice people as well.

At one point, I was traveling with some DOS employees. We visited the US Embassy in Baghdad. Man, the lunch buffet they had set out was beyond great!
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Going onto a CCP controlled "social media" website, and talking out of school re: how fucked the US Army is...?

It's either treasonous, or a well orchestrated and brilliant disinformation program.
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My dad was at Chosin Reservoir, but he was army, 7th Inf Div. Not sure if he was part of the "Frozen Chosen" battle, but seems to think he was. Weapons specialist, bazooka and Browning 30 cal. Spent 30+ winter days between two fox holes. One to live in with his buddy, the other to shit in.
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Troops using Chicom tiktok, fags, paying for trans surgeries, public bitching in uniform.

No or shoddy discipline probably because officers and NCO's are afraid their careers may be ruined by some pansies being offended and crying to the social actions office.

This is what liberalism brings to the military machine.
Soft as fuck liberals don't realize the next Big One
will be fought from our windows and roof tops .

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Going onto a CCP controlled "social media" website, and talking out of school re: how fucked the US Army is...?

It's either treasonous, or a well orchestrated and brilliant disinformation program.
Good thinking .
Were those cross dressing liberal anti military gay blades still living with their mommy's in the video even in the military?
I think the Chinese own that 'Tik Toc' sheet?
Funny they just tried to get a Taiwan officer to steal a Chinook chopper for them. Offered the guy $15 mil. and passports for Thailand. He got nailed. Whoops.
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