Budget nigh vision or thermal optics?

klauss · 11-15-2020, 10:40 PM

We have a field behind our house, 150-200 yards deep with a tree line on the far side with apartments behind the tree line.

I’m not a fan of not being able to see out in the field at night. Are there any decent night vision or thermal optics for the tight budgeted? I know night Vision I would be limited to generation 1, and thermal I have no knowledge of.

My upper limits of my budget would be 200-250 which I know won’t get me much, if anything.

Any suggestions?

baboon · 11-15-2020, 11:49 PM

At that price range a knockoff high lumen weapon light.

4thIDvet · 11-16-2020, 03:28 AM

FLIR Scout TK Pocket-Sized Thermal Vison Handheld Monocular Camera

Explore outdoors-at night and in lowlight conditions with this pocket-sized thermal vision monocular. Simple to use, the thermal vision helps you see people, objects, and animals from over 100 yards (90m) away. The Scout TK provides still image and video recording, making the the perfect companion whether in the back country or in the backyard.

Minimum Advertised Price $599.00 US

https://www.globaltestsupply.com/pro...waAusrEALw_wcB

Sanders · 11-16-2020, 09:57 AM

You may want to keep saving to the $600 range. I think Leupold has something in that range, as well as the one posted above.

I bought a $189 night vision monocular from Optics Planet a while back. It really isn't that great, even though it came with a head mount that can place it over your eye. I believe it is 1st Generation NV tech. Unless you have some ambient light for it to gather, it just doesn't do anything. You can use the built in IR illuminator, but that would give away your position to anyone else with an IR detector.

I believe the Leupold is a thermal monocular, which is what I would go with. You can't see someone concealed in the woods with an NV device, but you can see someone hiding behind bushes with a thermal.

baboon · 11-16-2020, 10:06 AM

So much of the cheap night vision is more of an Infa Red viewer. Good IR light are exspensive.

klauss · 11-21-2020, 12:39 PM

Thanks guys, didn’t think their would be much.

Need to find a way to keep an eye on the field behind my house.

baboon · 11-21-2020, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by klauss

Thanks guys, didn’t think their would be much.

Need to find a way to keep an eye on the field behind my house.

26.5mm Parachute Illumination Flares

Sanders · 11-21-2020, 09:47 PM

Trip flares are hella fun.

4thIDvet · 11-21-2020, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanders

Trip flares are hella fun.

Trip flares holy sheet I wonder how many tens of millions $$ those cost the poor American taxpayers? One went off it was like the battle of the Bulge times 10.
Every pin head and his brother went full auto frags flying artillery claymores all kinds of implements of destruction. Windy night yah try to tell the A holes its a branch or something. Nobody listened so just watch the damn show.
Either that or yah find a poor mutilated deer in the morning.

Sanders · 11-21-2020, 11:57 PM

A trip flare inside an ammo can full of blanks makes for a good time, too.

One of my drill sergeants at Ft. Benning made one of those booby traps for our final FTX which had us in a dug in defensive position and a company of guys from Ranger school had to infiltrate our lines. They didn't do very well.

4thIDvet · 11-21-2020, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by klauss

Thanks guys, didn’t think their would be much.

Need to find a way to keep an eye on the field behind my house.

klauss run some underground wire out to your back field and set some of these up. I have these all around the yard and if anything moves it turns night into day.
Plus their LED so the bulbs will last a lifetime.

Amico 3 Head LED Security Lights Motion Sensor Outdoor Adjustable 40W, 3500LM, 5000K, IP65 Waterproof, ETL Certified, Exterior Flood Light for Garage, Yard(Black)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Enforcer · 01-31-2021, 06:20 PM

Might try this

https://whatacountry.com/anpvs-2nightvisionscope.aspx

The A/N PVS-2, early Night Vision, Vietnam era but served into the late 80s with US Army.

Can get AR or M14 mounts too.

4thIDvet · 02-01-2021, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

Might try this

https://whatacountry.com/anpvs-2nightvisionscope.aspx

The A/N PVS-2, early Night Vision, Vietnam era but served into the late 80s with US Army.

Can get AR or M14 mounts too.

Enforcer that looks like the ones they gave us Gen. 1?? In defense of the govt. they were trying to get us all the help we could use. But? We refused to use them as they were not worth a damn.
One could see better at night without them. They taught us to not stare direct on at an object at night but to turn a bit and use our peripheral vision. Be damned it worked not great but better.
Unless they improved that Gen. 1 I would not waste money.

Hunter07 · 02-20-2021, 01:25 PM

A buddy has one of their Endosnake bore inspection devices that you can plug into your smart phone, and run it down the bore of any firearm. It does a pretty good job.

Maybe try these binos below........

https://endosnake.com/pages/300-yard...AXgEIqQwA8XJ8c

patchouli · 11-30-2021, 08:10 PM

I have sionyx (2) and a hand held thermal monocular.

They work reasonably well. I can tell more abour tehm and share some vids later of anyone interested.

11-15-2020, 10:40 PM	#1
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 3,780	Budget nigh vision or thermal optics? We have a field behind our house, 150-200 yards deep with a tree line on the far side with apartments behind the tree line. I’m not a fan of not being able to see out in the field at night. Are there any decent night vision or thermal optics for the tight budgeted? I know night Vision I would be limited to generation 1, and thermal I have no knowledge of. My upper limits of my budget would be 200-250 which I know won’t get me much, if anything. Any suggestions? __________________ alterius non sit qui suus esse potest!-"Let no man belong to another who can belong to himself." Heîs oiōnòs áristos, amýnesthai perì pátrēs- "There is only one omen, to fight for one's country"

11-16-2020, 03:28 AM	#3
4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 45,714	FLIR Scout TK Pocket-Sized Thermal Vison Handheld Monocular Camera Explore outdoors-at night and in lowlight conditions with this pocket-sized thermal vision monocular. Simple to use, the thermal vision helps you see people, objects, and animals from over 100 yards (90m) away. The Scout TK provides still image and video recording, making the the perfect companion whether in the back country or in the backyard. Minimum Advertised Price $599.00 US https://www.globaltestsupply.com/pro...waAusrEALw_wcB __________________ God Bless Americas Veterans. All who are serving and have served.

11-16-2020, 09:57 AM	#4
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63,804	You may want to keep saving to the $600 range. I think Leupold has something in that range, as well as the one posted above. I bought a $189 night vision monocular from Optics Planet a while back. It really isn't that great, even though it came with a head mount that can place it over your eye. I believe it is 1st Generation NV tech. Unless you have some ambient light for it to gather, it just doesn't do anything. You can use the built in IR illuminator, but that would give away your position to anyone else with an IR detector. I believe the Leupold is a thermal monocular, which is what I would go with. You can't see someone concealed in the woods with an NV device, but you can see someone hiding behind bushes with a thermal. __________________ "The truly dangerous man dresses inconspicuously and is soft- spoken. He walks away from most confrontations. The only time you learn that the truly dangerous man is mad at you is a split second before you die, for he never fights. He only kills. The truly dangerous man knows that fighting is what children do and killing is what men do." - Charley Reese 1986 3

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11-15-2020, 11:49 PM	#2
baboon slug Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Out by the lake in central Texas Posts: 17,464	At that price range a knockoff high lumen weapon light.

11-16-2020, 10:06 AM	#5
baboon slug Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Out by the lake in central Texas Posts: 17,464	So much of the cheap night vision is more of an Infa Red viewer. Good IR light are exspensive.

11-21-2020, 12:39 PM	#6
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 3,780	Thanks guys, didn’t think their would be much. Need to find a way to keep an eye on the field behind my house.

11-21-2020, 09:47 PM	#8
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63,804	Trip flares are hella fun.

11-21-2020, 11:57 PM	#10
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63,804	A trip flare inside an ammo can full of blanks makes for a good time, too. One of my drill sergeants at Ft. Benning made one of those booby traps for our final FTX which had us in a dug in defensive position and a company of guys from Ranger school had to infiltrate our lines. They didn't do very well.

01-31-2021, 06:20 PM	#12
Enforcer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3,162	Might try this https://whatacountry.com/anpvs-2nightvisionscope.aspx The A/N PVS-2, early Night Vision, Vietnam era but served into the late 80s with US Army. Can get AR or M14 mounts too.

02-20-2021, 01:25 PM	#14
Hunter07 I'm a grumpy SOB Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Posts: 10,229	A buddy has one of their Endosnake bore inspection devices that you can plug into your smart phone, and run it down the bore of any firearm. It does a pretty good job. Maybe try these binos below........ https://endosnake.com/pages/300-yard...AXgEIqQwA8XJ8c

11-30-2021, 08:10 PM	#15
patchouli Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 8	I have sionyx (2) and a hand held thermal monocular. They work reasonably well. I can tell more abour tehm and share some vids later of anyone interested.