2011 Hunts - Page 2

Frogman · 04-19-2011, 11:03 AM

Years ago when I lived out West, the best way we found to get Coyotes in was borrowing anybodies Kittens and let them squeal. I'll tell you they worked on all the perpetrators. Just make sure someone has a shotgun for the unexpected.

Rick in NY · 04-19-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert Rat

Erik, do you ever "call fox" or just trap them. I've had some wild and wooly times "calling fox" and I got damn good at it.

Ditto for you, Rick. Do you call your coyotes and if so how? Or do you just take targets of opportunity?

Well DR, got a co-worker that calls 'em in, he's offered to teach me how. Not sure any other method would really work... So, I'll keep you all posted on my progress this summer.

napahunter · 04-19-2011, 03:54 PM

Well lets see...Aug-oct I will be after blaktail deer
Sept 1-15 dove
Late Oct-Jan 31 it will be Quail, chucker,duck pheasant,dove,and pig
Open all year coyotes

cdhknives · 04-19-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert Rat

Laramie is pretty good area for Wyoming antelope, although the devils seem to everywhere except up in the mountains. But be warned, Wyoming is a state where a guy can severely strain his rifle barrel on long shots.

Huge areas where you can see forever...and so can the antelope.

They LOVE open space with maybe a spatter of low rolling hills.

I've got some aerial pic's I took of good sized antelope herds many miles west of Rock Springs where the country looks like it wouldn't support a population of lizards.

Anyhow I'm eager to follow your adventures up there.

Do you have a ranch to hunt on or just gonna chance it on public lands?

Public lands...my buddy in Colorado is going to try and get a couple of scouting trips done this summer. There are a couple of ranches that are part of a landowner program allowing public access as well that we are considering. Oh that I could afford to pay ranch fees...

Hunter07 · 04-20-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick in NY

Well DR, got a co-worker that calls 'em in, he's offered to teach me how. Not sure any other method would really work... So, I'll keep you all posted on my progress this summer.

My son's father-in-law uses an electronic caller with good success.

Just sayin'........

I don't have any experience with them.....

Desert Rat · 04-20-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter07

My son's father-in-law uses an electronic caller with good success.

Just sayin'........

I don't have any experience with them.....

The new electric callers seem to be the wave of the future, Hunter.

I never scored real big on coyotes using manual methods. My specialty was fox. I've called many in close enough to literally shake hands. Stupid fox, if his ears tell him it's a free meal, he doesn't care what his eyes tell him. How dumb is that? It got a lot of them dead.

10 Bears · 04-20-2011, 10:58 AM

Several years ago an asshole neighbor designated a portion of his property as a "Fox Release" area. Then he posted No Hunting-No Trapping signs.
He thought they would stay in the wooded area of the drain ditch/live stream on his property.
My .270 made their pelts worthless, when they trespassed on MY property.

Rick in NY · 04-20-2011, 12:34 PM

Yup yup! Those electronic calls seem to be where it's at today. I'm looking for one with a good remote. Set the call and decoy, then back off 50 yards to a blind then start calling. At least that's what Jeff has told me. I'll report in later as we actually do it.

10B, hitting foxes with a 270? Definitely a case of returning them to "kit form".

10 Bears · 04-20-2011, 12:41 PM

I have an "OLD" electronic call, used a casette tape.
Big horn on it also.
Only took it out once, used four "D" Cells.
They lasted for about an hour and it was done.

Didn't call in a damned thing.

My huning buddy, with his caller and then the squeaker, was a hell of a lot more effective.
The thing about mechanical calls, you can tailor your noises to the critters reactions.
If the Coyote seems to lose interest you can intensify, or alter, what you do.

Really enjoyed hunting with a good varmint caller buddy.
Reckon it was because I was the "delegated shooter!"

Desert Rat · 04-20-2011, 11:05 PM

An educated coyote will come cautiously up to about 300 yds and pinpoint where the sound is coming from. Then they will disappear and circle around behind, until they get a whiff of what's really waiting for them. Of course when they smell you or me...they're gone for good. Oft times the caller will never see any of this process.

Fox seem to believe what they hear, discarding all the rest. Coyotes believe what they see and smell and only half-ass trust what they hear.

Calling coyotes got to be such an over-done thing in NM...and often done by dumbshits who had no real clue, until it got to the place where most coyotes ran the other way when they heard a call. It wasn't worth the risk to them.

backhoe310 · 04-21-2011, 08:18 PM

I bought one of the FoxPro Firestorms last fall for critters. It seems that is all we have left around here, all predators and no small game. Didn't have any luck calling gray foxes last season, but Dad and I had some fun calling crows and some buddies and I had our eyes opened one night. We did a set in the middle of the woods that you couldn't see very good. Called in a coon on kitten distress, then switched to cotton tail distress and had a huge barn owl fly into a tree 20 feet away. Thank goodness he hooted at us twice, we shined the red light up at him and he was there ruffling his feathers like he was ready to attack. Rotten devil followed us around the next 3 hours.
Another note for you guys, electronic calls can scare the crap out of women. We got back to my buddies house about 11:30PM. His wife and best friend's fiance were watching tv. Snuck inside, set the call in the stairway, and set it to angry bobcat. Scared both girls and the poodle.

Desert Rat · 04-21-2011, 09:02 PM

While still in college 100 years ago, I used to call gray fox up and nail them right next to my hometown's cemetery...all of which was still technically within the city limits. Fox do not mind living in people's back yards. No one needs to drive 40 miles out into the countryside to hunt fox. I promise there are plenty living right beside most towns in America.

The good news is these "city dwelling fox" are super dumb and trusting because they see peeps every day of their lives and don't have much fear of them. When a real fox caller comes out to hunt one night, it can be a slaughter.

ErikD · 04-22-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Desert Rat

Erik, do you ever "call fox" or just trap them. I've had some wild and wooly times "calling fox" and I got damn good at it.

I just trap them, but have a plan to start calling them later this year. From what I understand, it can be a lot of fun.

Desert Rat · 04-22-2011, 09:55 AM

Varmint calling is a blast, Erik, and if the animals have never heard a call before, they are really suckers.

The best calling I've ever done wasn't with electronic or even handheld call. It's just simply "mouth calling." I could teach you how in about 2 minutes.

Keep in mind all these critters are super sensitive to almost any form of squeak or squeal. The closer they get, the softer and weaker the squeaks get. Makes the predators crazy to get in and grab the prey...which turns out to be THEM.

04-19-2011, 11:03 AM	#16
Frogman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,932	Years ago when I lived out West, the best way we found to get Coyotes in was borrowing anybodies Kittens and let them squeal. I'll tell you they worked on all the perpetrators. Just make sure someone has a shotgun for the unexpected. __________________ Gun control defined: The theory that people who are willing to ignore laws against theft, torture, kidnapping, rape, and murder but will obey a law which prohibits them from owning a firearm. "I love this country, it's the government I'm afraid of"

04-20-2011, 12:34 PM	#23
Rick in NY Resident Nuisance Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NY Finger Lakes Posts: 718	Yup yup! Those electronic calls seem to be where it's at today. I'm looking for one with a good remote. Set the call and decoy, then back off 50 yards to a blind then start calling. At least that's what Jeff has told me. I'll report in later as we actually do it. 10B, hitting foxes with a 270? Definitely a case of returning them to "kit form". __________________ Great minds think alike, but so do equally disturbed ones...

04-19-2011, 03:54 PM	#18
napahunter Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 67	Well lets see...Aug-oct I will be after blaktail deer Sept 1-15 dove Late Oct-Jan 31 it will be Quail, chucker,duck pheasant,dove,and pig Open all year coyotes

04-20-2011, 10:58 AM	#22
10 Bears Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: E-Da-How Posts: 137,846	Several years ago an asshole neighbor designated a portion of his property as a "Fox Release" area. Then he posted No Hunting-No Trapping signs. He thought they would stay in the wooded area of the drain ditch/live stream on his property. My .270 made their pelts worthless, when they trespassed on MY property.

04-20-2011, 12:41 PM	#24
10 Bears Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: E-Da-How Posts: 137,846	I have an "OLD" electronic call, used a casette tape. Big horn on it also. Only took it out once, used four "D" Cells. They lasted for about an hour and it was done. Didn't call in a damned thing. My huning buddy, with his caller and then the squeaker, was a hell of a lot more effective. The thing about mechanical calls, you can tailor your noises to the critters reactions. If the Coyote seems to lose interest you can intensify, or alter, what you do. Really enjoyed hunting with a good varmint caller buddy. Reckon it was because I was the "delegated shooter!"

04-20-2011, 11:05 PM	#25
Desert Rat Junior Woodchuck Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,592	An educated coyote will come cautiously up to about 300 yds and pinpoint where the sound is coming from. Then they will disappear and circle around behind, until they get a whiff of what's really waiting for them. Of course when they smell you or me...they're gone for good. Oft times the caller will never see any of this process. Fox seem to believe what they hear, discarding all the rest. Coyotes believe what they see and smell and only half-ass trust what they hear. Calling coyotes got to be such an over-done thing in NM...and often done by dumbshits who had no real clue, until it got to the place where most coyotes ran the other way when they heard a call. It wasn't worth the risk to them.

04-21-2011, 08:18 PM	#26
backhoe310 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 836	I bought one of the FoxPro Firestorms last fall for critters. It seems that is all we have left around here, all predators and no small game. Didn't have any luck calling gray foxes last season, but Dad and I had some fun calling crows and some buddies and I had our eyes opened one night. We did a set in the middle of the woods that you couldn't see very good. Called in a coon on kitten distress, then switched to cotton tail distress and had a huge barn owl fly into a tree 20 feet away. Thank goodness he hooted at us twice, we shined the red light up at him and he was there ruffling his feathers like he was ready to attack. Rotten devil followed us around the next 3 hours. Another note for you guys, electronic calls can scare the crap out of women. We got back to my buddies house about 11:30PM. His wife and best friend's fiance were watching tv. Snuck inside, set the call in the stairway, and set it to angry bobcat. Scared both girls and the poodle.

04-21-2011, 09:02 PM	#27
Desert Rat Junior Woodchuck Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,592	While still in college 100 years ago, I used to call gray fox up and nail them right next to my hometown's cemetery...all of which was still technically within the city limits. Fox do not mind living in people's back yards. No one needs to drive 40 miles out into the countryside to hunt fox. I promise there are plenty living right beside most towns in America. The good news is these "city dwelling fox" are super dumb and trusting because they see peeps every day of their lives and don't have much fear of them. When a real fox caller comes out to hunt one night, it can be a slaughter.

04-22-2011, 09:55 AM	#29
Desert Rat Junior Woodchuck Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,592	Varmint calling is a blast, Erik, and if the animals have never heard a call before, they are really suckers. The best calling I've ever done wasn't with electronic or even handheld call. It's just simply "mouth calling." I could teach you how in about 2 minutes. Keep in mind all these critters are super sensitive to almost any form of squeak or squeal. The closer they get, the softer and weaker the squeaks get. Makes the predators crazy to get in and grab the prey...which turns out to be THEM.