45-70 Government - Page 2

GARANDNUT · 12-12-2022, 03:19 PM

I have a Marlin guide gun in 450 Marlin (just a belted .45-70). I do not find the recoil an issue.

Diesel 88888888 · 03-21-2024, 07:49 PM

I had a Springfield trap door carbine, US Cavalry, and fired tons of rounds through; the old Naval Lyle guns used 45/70 blanks and it used to be had at 'giveaway' prices, the stuff made for the Carbine has a C stamped on the head of the case...a hoot to shoot for sure...Friends of mine had Gatlin guns in that caliber but I never got to soot them but Dave Cumberland of 'Old West Gun Room' in El Cerito, CA brought his to the last cannon shoot and ripped up the range with it.

500grains · 03-22-2024, 11:31 AM

45-70 recoil:

1. Original lead load: mild
2. 405 grain jacketed FN loaded to 1350 fps for Trapdoor Springfield (Rem. factory ammo): mild
3. 300 grain modern loads (Winchester): mild

4. Hot 400 grain grain jacketed loads at 1800 fps for Marlin: Painful and difficult to control recoil. Scope might hit your forehead.
5. Any Buffalo Bore ammo: Painful.

45-70 performance on deer:

I have shot several deer with the 45-70 Marlin using 400 grain Speer at 1700 fps. The bullet expands rapidly and causes a lot of damage. It is way more power than a deer needs and I suggest a Trapdoor Springfield load instead.

My kid shot a deer with a Browning 45-70 loaded with a traditional lead FN load. The recoil was light and wound channel was moderate. It was just right.

For deer I would also consider the 300 grain Winchester factory ammo.

klauss · 03-29-2024, 04:43 AM

Wonder how well this works lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=88M-VD...LTcwIGF1dG8%3D

03-21-2024, 07:49 PM	#17
Diesel 88888888 slug Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 35,836	I had a Springfield trap door carbine, US Cavalry, and fired tons of rounds through; the old Naval Lyle guns used 45/70 blanks and it used to be had at 'giveaway' prices, the stuff made for the Carbine has a C stamped on the head of the case...a hoot to shoot for sure...Friends of mine had Gatlin guns in that caliber but I never got to soot them but Dave Cumberland of 'Old West Gun Room' in El Cerito, CA brought his to the last cannon shoot and ripped up the range with it. __________________ Diesel 88888888 Duty is Action; Fight Or Die! Fight Or I'll Kill You Myself!

03-22-2024, 11:31 AM	#18
500grains Soldier of Allah Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Crackerland Posts: 31,667	45-70 recoil: 1. Original lead load: mild 2. 405 grain jacketed FN loaded to 1350 fps for Trapdoor Springfield (Rem. factory ammo): mild 3. 300 grain modern loads (Winchester): mild 4. Hot 400 grain grain jacketed loads at 1800 fps for Marlin: Painful and difficult to control recoil. Scope might hit your forehead. 5. Any Buffalo Bore ammo: Painful. 45-70 performance on deer: I have shot several deer with the 45-70 Marlin using 400 grain Speer at 1700 fps. The bullet expands rapidly and causes a lot of damage. It is way more power than a deer needs and I suggest a Trapdoor Springfield load instead. My kid shot a deer with a Browning 45-70 loaded with a traditional lead FN load. The recoil was light and wound channel was moderate. It was just right. For deer I would also consider the 300 grain Winchester factory ammo. __________________ Racism will keep you alive.

03-29-2024, 04:43 AM	#19
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 4,067	Wonder how well this works lol https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=88M-VD...LTcwIGF1dG8%3D __________________ alterius non sit qui suus esse potest!-"Let no man belong to another who can belong to himself." Heîs oiōnòs áristos, amýnesthai perì pátrēs- "There is only one omen, to fight for one's country"

12-12-2022, 03:19 PM	#16
GARANDNUT Pontificator Maximus Join Date: May 2006 Location: between the hills Posts: 8,733	I have a Marlin guide gun in 450 Marlin (just a belted .45-70). I do not find the recoil an issue.