SAIGA 12's - Page 2

Sanders · 11-12-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 5knives

Did you check the friction ring assembly in the recoil mechanism.?

If it kicks that much it's either extemly worn or (most likely, as in 80% of those you see), installed backwards for the shells you're using. Most folks don't know about that.

One way for light loads, the other way for full power loads.

Recoil shouldn't be all that bad, but that 'double shuffle' of the action sure throws you off 'til you get used to it.

Great Gun, family treasure just makes it better!

Regards,

I honestly don't know how it's facing. It's been a while since I've had it out. I think a good oiling is due.

It's the one my brother got arrested with defending himself from a couple drunks, and I had to retrieve it from the police station evidence locker after the charges against him were dropped. I swear they kept a humidifier on it while it was in there.

Pogo · 11-12-2008, 05:04 PM

The Remington like you have has an interesting history. Browning sued Remington and forced them to discontinue the design because of patent infringement. The ones that got out before Remington stopped making them bring a good selling price.

bounce · 11-12-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanders

The Remington M11 is the same critter...I'm not letting mine go. It was a WW2 veteran, and then carried by my great Uncle in the Korean War.

It's an interesting piece. It has the engraved hunting scene on the receiver and the flaming bomb on the barrel. That's how the government bought them and sent them to war. Somewhere along the way, somebody put a polychoke on the barrel.

Kicks like a friggin mule, though.

neato!

I've just inherited a 20 gauge Model 11 remington...from my dad who got it from my great uncle Kelly who was at Pelileu in WWII. It has a choke on it as well....I'll post pics when I can.... Also got a Mo-skeet-o .22lr pump....had to go to wally world and buy some CCI shot shells to use in it...if I'm correct in the right type of ammo to use for it...

ATD · 11-12-2008, 07:13 PM

back onto topic :P, I have a Saiga-12, converted to pistol grip, with the MD-20 Twenty round drum, and a handfull of keepshooting.coms 5rnd mags. that thing is a hoot to shoot. Mine is the 22inch barrel with a full choke, when pitching clays in the back yard its not uncommon to hit two clays twice with that gun. I've taken it dove and pheasant hunting and taken game every time with it. And there is nothing quite like bumpfireing a 12 guage. I'd almost bet I could get more than 5 shells in the air with mine.

5knives · 11-12-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ATD

back onto topic :P, I have a Saiga-12, converted to pistol grip, with the MD-20 Twenty round drum, and a handfull of keepshooting.coms 5rnd mags. that thing is a hoot to shoot. Mine is the 22inch barrel with a full choke, when pitching clays in the back yard its not uncommon to hit two clays twice with that gun. I've taken it dove and pheasant hunting and taken game every time with it. And there is nothing quite like bumpfireing a 12 guage. I'd almost bet I could get more than 5 shells in the air with mine.

Yes you can!

The five rounds applies ony to the original factory magazines, that little booger cycles fast!

Regards,

buzgun · 11-12-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ATD

back onto topic :P, I have a Saiga-12, converted to pistol grip, with the MD-20 Twenty round drum, and a handfull of keepshooting.coms 5rnd mags. that thing is a hoot to shoot. Mine is the 22inch barrel with a full choke, when pitching clays in the back yard its not uncommon to hit two clays twice with that gun. I've taken it dove and pheasant hunting and taken game every time with it. And there is nothing quite like bumpfireing a 12 guage. I'd almost bet I could get more than 5 shells in the air with mine.

How does the MD-20 drum function?

ATD · 11-14-2008, 07:14 PM

I haven't had any troubles with it so far, but then I haven't tried very much in it yet either. the maker has said it has some issues with high brass shells and has figured out how to fix it and is going to be fixing the drums as soon as he gets the new bodies made. but so far it works great with the walmart value packs of bird shot.

Havoc308 · 11-19-2008, 03:34 PM

Got one on order from Cadiz Gun Works in OH. the No-bama special Tom Cole has running for $666. It's "converted" back to pistol grip/standard stock/G2 trigger group with all Tapco parts. They will be taking orders until Nov 22 or 100 orders are reached. Their phone number is 740-942-3

Here is the link:http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=30842

I do not work for Cadiz Gun Works, their subsidiaries, or Saiga12.com.
edited to add disclaimer

AKWARRIOR · 11-19-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogo

I still want a Browning Auto 5. That was a mechanical work of art by the genius of John Browning. Most are either rather beat up, or in the hands of someone who isn't about to let theirs go, or are selling for a bunch of money though.

I've been watching GunBroker and I spotted a couple last night I might bid on.

That's a damn good shotgun and many were used in WW2 especially the PTO.Soldiers liked them a lot.

DorGunR · 11-19-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5knives

Did you check the friction ring assembly in the recoil mechanism.?

If it kicks that much it's either extemly worn or (most likely, as in 80% of those you see), installed backwards for the shells you're using. Most folks don't know about that.

One way for light loads, the other way for full power loads.

Recoil shouldn't be all that bad, but that 'double shuffle' of the action sure throws you off 'til you get used to it.

Great Gun, family treasure just makes it better!

Regards,

I gave my pristine Browning A5 to SP, its still in good hands with him.

buzgun · 11-19-2008, 03:54 PM

It occurred to me when i loaded the SAIGA 12 with a 10 round mag full of 00 and no.4 buck and rapid fired the entire magazine into a pond at the skeet range last Sunday that this Hi-cap shotgun is deadlier than ANY class 3 FA sub machine gun

For about 3 seconds all the watter in the pond was 6-8ft. in the air

I am VERY pleased with it

5knives · 11-19-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by buzgun

It occurred to me when i loaded the SAIGA 12 with a 10 round mag full of 00 and no.4 buck and rapid fired the entire magazine into a pond at the skeet range last Sunday that this Hi-cap shotgun is deadlier than ANY class 3 FA sub machine gun

For about 3 seconds all the watter in the pond was 6-8ft. in the air

I am VERY pleased with it

Ahhh So!

It is in this manner that we gain wisdom grasshopper!

Regards,

Pogo · 11-19-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzgun

It occurred to me when i loaded the SAIGA 12 with a 10 round mag full of 00 and no.4 buck and rapid fired the entire magazine into a pond at the skeet range last Sunday that this Hi-cap shotgun is deadlier than ANY class 3 FA sub machine gun

For about 3 seconds all the watter in the pond was 6-8ft. in the air

I am VERY pleased with it

That is why I have said so many times that the US Army should ditch the assault weapon idea and equip a large part of every squad with shotguns.

DorGunR · 11-19-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogo

That is why I have said so many times that the US Army should ditch the assault weapon idea and equip a large part of every squad with shotguns.

As you know a lot of guys walking point in Nam carried shotguns.

11-12-2008, 05:04 PM	#17
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,969	The Remington like you have has an interesting history. Browning sued Remington and forced them to discontinue the design because of patent infringement. The ones that got out before Remington stopped making them bring a good selling price. __________________ .................................................. ....................................… *We have met the enemy, and he is us!*

11-12-2008, 07:13 PM	#19
ATD Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 277	back onto topic :P, I have a Saiga-12, converted to pistol grip, with the MD-20 Twenty round drum, and a handfull of keepshooting.coms 5rnd mags. that thing is a hoot to shoot. Mine is the 22inch barrel with a full choke, when pitching clays in the back yard its not uncommon to hit two clays twice with that gun. I've taken it dove and pheasant hunting and taken game every time with it. And there is nothing quite like bumpfireing a 12 guage. I'd almost bet I could get more than 5 shells in the air with mine.

11-14-2008, 07:14 PM	#22
ATD Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 277	I haven't had any troubles with it so far, but then I haven't tried very much in it yet either. the maker has said it has some issues with high brass shells and has figured out how to fix it and is going to be fixing the drums as soon as he gets the new bodies made. but so far it works great with the walmart value packs of bird shot.

11-19-2008, 03:34 PM	#23
Havoc308 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hell's Ditch, SC Posts: 638	Got one on order from Cadiz Gun Works in OH. the No-bama special Tom Cole has running for $666. It's "converted" back to pistol grip/standard stock/G2 trigger group with all Tapco parts. They will be taking orders until Nov 22 or 100 orders are reached. Their phone number is 740-942-3 Here is the link:http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=30842 I do not work for Cadiz Gun Works, their subsidiaries, or Saiga12.com. edited to add disclaimer

11-19-2008, 03:54 PM	#26
buzgun slug Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25,638	It occurred to me when i loaded the SAIGA 12 with a 10 round mag full of 00 and no.4 buck and rapid fired the entire magazine into a pond at the skeet range last Sunday that this Hi-cap shotgun is deadlier than ANY class 3 FA sub machine gun For about 3 seconds all the watter in the pond was 6-8ft. in the air I am VERY pleased with it