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Old 01-31-2017, 04:37 PM   #1
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Default Affordable Thermal Optics? Pulsar Core and Trail Systems—SHOT Show 2017

Beats $4,000 for similar items.

I'd rather have a thermal scope than a NVD, if I had to choose one or the other. The thermals they had for the Dragon anti-tank launcher was amazing. You could see someone's footprints on the dirt for several minutes after they had walked past, is how sensitive it was.

You can't see someone hiding in the brush with NODs, but you can see them with thermals. They can also be used to look for hot spots in your house, if you suspect poor wiring.

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The CORE retails for around $1,900, which is a fair bit of change, but something like this wouldn’t have even been available a decade ago. It features the ability to record to your phone via a Pulsar app, on board memory to record your hunts direct, and good clarity of optic. One of the stranger things about this thermal is that it displays in green on black, which looks like night vision. It is thermal, trust us. During the engineering process, they chose to display in these colors to help prevent eye fatigue. If you have ever spent hours on a thermal device, you will appreciate it.

The TRAIL moves up in price to a starting price of $2,700, but you get some good bang for your buck. This model and above feature a new battery pack that is very reminiscent of a shrunk down Dewalt drill battery. And I say that as a compliment. The battery pack is condensed, easy to carry, fits naturally into the thermal unit without adding bulk, and runs for 10 hours. That is a pretty serious feat of engineering, and I will be looking forward to testing this one under field conditions. The battery pack fits the entire series of TRAIL, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see the same one fit future generations of night vision and other accessories. Look for some big things from this company over the next year.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/aff...hot-show-2017/
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I see lots of guys going to thermals on their hog rifles. Until I hit the lotto, I'll have to stick with my night vision. When I think what I've got tied up in night vision I think I'm committed to it.
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This reminds me of why I hate consumer electronics. The shit just keeps changing & costing more. My best example of this is just think of all the different ways you have owned to play music!
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I see lots of guys going to thermals on their hog rifles. Until I hit the lotto, I'll have to stick with my night vision. When I think what I've got tied up in night vision I think I'm committed to it.
If I could, I would go with both. Each system has its own unique capabilities.

All I have is cheapie night vision - 1st Gen stuff. Still better than nothing.
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If I could, I would go with both. Each system has its own unique capabilities.

All I have is cheapie night vision - 1st Gen stuff. Still better than nothing.
Ever use a Meta scope? A buddy had them years ago. I see these & think about the ones he had. Hell he might still have them.
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Ever use a Meta scope? A buddy had them years ago. I see these & think about the ones he had. Hell he might still have them.
http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/i...uery=retrieval
boon when did that one come out do you know? That looks like the ones we had in the late 60s which I believe were the original gen. 1s.?
I still respectively disagree with yah and think competition will eventually drive the price of these instruments down. Now just my .02 on that. Most early night vision did not go over to well and guys relied on their natural night vision.
We were taught to not look direct but to use our peripheral vision and it did work much better.
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boon when did that one come out do you know? That looks like the ones we had in the late 60s which I believe were the original gen. 1s.?
I still respectively disagree with yah and think competition will eventually drive the price of these instruments down. Now just my .02 on that. Most early night vision did not go over to well and guys relied on their natural night vision.
We were taught to not look direct but to use our peripheral vision and it did work much better.
Vietnam era is what I read after doing a quick search. Now with great IR lights these things should really shine.
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Ever use a Meta scope? A buddy had them years ago. I see these & think about the ones he had. Hell he might still have them.
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I never messed around with those. It looks like they are just for viewing things that are lit up by IR, but not really light-gathering like NODs are.

Price is right, but you probably need to get an IR spotlight to go with it.
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I never messed around with those. It looks like they are just for viewing things that are lit up by IR, but not really light-gathering like NODs are.

Price is right, but you probably need to get an IR spotlight to go with it.
IIRC they had an IR light source or at least my buddies did. A SureFire Vampire IR light would probably make it work great!

An IR viewer would be a fine way to spot target if whatever you are using is mounted on a rifle. The viewing thru a rifle mount sucks like using binoculars when you really need a spotting scope!

I'll just stick with my helmet mounted PVS-14 & DBAL on the rifle.
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I see lots of guys going to thermals on their hog rifles. Until I hit the lotto, I'll have to stick with my night vision. When I think what I've got tied up in night vision I think I'm committed to it.
Twice I had money set aside for some nice NGV but ended up using it for household expenses. Then I gave up. I hear the National Guard will loan you a pair if you need them.
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"Leupold LTO Tracker Thermal Imaging Monocular Sight / Hand-held Viewer w/ 6X Digital Zoom 172830 w/ Free S&H"

http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold-...792f3650713473

This looks interesting for $700. Description says it will reach out to 600 yards?
Temperature range said it will still work at 572 degrees? WTF over I guess good if your planning on visiting the sun soon.
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I'm like the singer Roy Clark, he said before he became famous he was so broke that if someone were selling steamboats for a dollar all he could do was run up and down the bank yelling "ain't that cheap?" As much as I would like to have a Thermal Imaging Sight to mount on my Savage .270...all I can do is run up and down the river bank!
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Most early night vision did not go over to well and guys relied on their natural night vision.
We were taught to not look direct but to use our peripheral vision and it did work much better.
That's old BoyScout stuff. With my regular rifle scopes, 40, 44, or 50mm, on a moonless but starlit night, I can read the house number of a neighbor 1/4 away. If there was a reason to engage him, I'd be able to tell the difference between him and his son.
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