Jesus Walked on Ice Instead of Water???

Preacher · 04-05-2006, 10:43 AM

Sorry Nof, but I have never seen a boat sail in ice. Nice try.

http://channels.netscape.com/whatsne...=20060405-0842

Science Tells How Jesus Walked on Water
The Bible says that Jesus walked on water, but a professor of oceanography at Florida State University in Tallahassee says Christ was actually walking on a floating piece of ice.

The sixth chapter of the Gospel of John tells the story familiar to Christians: When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea, got into a boat and started across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them. The sea became rough because a strong wind was blowing. When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were terrified. But he said to them: "It is I, do not be afraid." (John 6:16-20)

Reuters reports that FSU professor Doron Nof credits this miraculous act to an unusual combination of water and atmospheric conditions in what is now northern Israel that could have led to ice formation on the Sea of Galilee. Using statistical models to examine the dynamics of the Sea of Galilee (now known as Lake Kinneret) and records of surface temperatures of the Mediterranean Sea, Nof determined there was a period of cooler temperatures in the area between 1,500 and 2,600 years ago. This could have included the time in which Jesus lived.

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Zane Zackerly · 04-05-2006, 11:17 AM

Years ago there was one about the Red Sea only being a few inches deep at the time of Moses.

Most preachers came back with "So all those Egyptian soldiers drowned in a few inches of water?"

ptannjr · 04-05-2006, 11:32 AM

This is the pic that is what CNN/Popular Mechanics said Jesus looks like in the link preacher gave.

aviator · 04-05-2006, 11:51 AM

Given the complexion of the people in the area at the time I would say that's possible.

Cephus · 04-05-2006, 12:04 PM

I'm sorry but when it comes to what he looked like it doesn't matter ,what he did does .
I'll just trust in what I have read in the one book !!!
I don't need a scientist to tell me what faith is !!!

Zane Zackerly · 04-05-2006, 12:07 PM

I wish they hadn't made him look like a young Harry Shearer.

Cadapult · 04-05-2006, 09:55 PM

I sent a respectful email to the fellow with the "walking on icebergs" theory pointing out what I feel is a flaw. It's more grasping at scientific straws, but will probably be hailed as a brilliant step toward debunking the existence of God.

Preacher · 04-05-2006, 10:09 PM

to the Bunker Cadapult!!!

Pogo · 04-06-2006, 08:22 AM

Kewl, I see you made it here Cadapult. Great to have you.

pistol-packin-wifey · 04-06-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cephus

I'm sorry but when it comes to what he looked like it doesn't matter ,what he did does .
I'll just trust in what I have read in the one book !!!
I don't need a scientist to tell me what faith is !!!

amen! Cephus

and ummmmm if Jesus had been walking on ICE, i'm sure the Gospels would have said ice floes...and why would the fishermen be afraid of a man walking on ice? and ummmm i think their boat would have broken the ice.........sheesh, sometimes scholars can be ridiculous

5knives · 04-06-2006, 12:54 PM

What utter drivel!

Perhaps the "Professor" would like to to visit me some time when it's cold enough to have ice on Lake Michigan, it's only about a half hour walk from my house to the Lake.

He could demonstrate his theory some night ... in a storm!

I'll film it for free because I can sell it to "Jackass" or "Stupid Home Videos"!

For a real "myth busting" headline we could run up to Lake Superior, in a storm, at night, with ice.

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Originally Posted by Preacher

............. [/B][I]When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea, got into a boat and started across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them. The sea became rough because a strong wind was blowing. When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were terrified. But he said to them: "It is I, do not be afraid." (John 6:16-20) ......... [/B]

Aside from the obvious, how did they row a boat 3 or 4 miles across the ice? There remains the problem of the rough sea. A condition not usually associated with long walks on the ice.

Why accept part of the story and reject the rest?

Maybe the sea was really calm, maybe it was daylight not night, Maybe Jesus didn't walk, maybe he just stood on an ice flow, and it transported him like a flying carpet. Maybe he was on a very low altitude flying carpet.

Maybe he was carried on ropes hung from a TV station helicopter that was caught in the Bermuda triangle and thrown back in time.

As for the "picture" , Cephus said it all, whether Jesus looked like Arnold Schwartzenegger, Adonis or Alfred E. Newman is so inconsequential as to be not worth the time spent typing this paragraph.

Some might think this kind of foolishness irritates me, just slightly. They would be right!

Sometimes I find it difficult to maintain my kind, gentle and understanding demeanor!

Regards,

Preacher · 04-06-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 5knives

Sometimes I find it difficult to maintain my kind, gentle and understanding demeanor!

Regards,

If it makes you feel any better, you took it calmer than I did.

I waited a while to post this story. A member of the Upper Room pointed out a typographical error in the professors name. The article has his name listed as "Doron Nof." But we are thinking the name has been mispelled and that it should have been "Moron Nof."

partssman · 04-06-2006, 07:22 PM

Catapilt...good to see you over here Buddy......

Sciencist once again trying to disprove the Bible...go figure

He can say ice all he wants....I know better

Features could be correct.....Jesus didn't have the customary long hair like most pics show him....why would HE tell us long hair on a man was a shame then HIM do it.....I don't want any pitcure of Christ with long hair

Preacher · 04-06-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by partssman

Features could be correct.....Jesus didn't have the customary long hair like most pics show him....why would HE tell us long hair on a man was a shame then HIM do it.....I don't want any pitcure of Christ with long hair

Reminds me of the lyrics to Todd Agnew's song "My Jesus."

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Pretty blue eyes and curly brown hair and a clear complexion
Is how you see Him as He dies for your sins
But the Word says He was battered and scarred
Or did you miss that part?
Sometimes I doubt we’d recognize Him

partssman · 04-06-2006, 07:36 PM

That's right......but I don't think he had long hair regardless

04-05-2006, 10:43 AM	#1
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	Jesus Walked on Ice Instead of Water??? Sorry Nof, but I have never seen a boat sail in ice. Nice try. http://channels.netscape.com/whatsne...=20060405-0842 Science Tells How Jesus Walked on Water The Bible says that Jesus walked on water, but a professor of oceanography at Florida State University in Tallahassee says Christ was actually walking on a floating piece of ice. The sixth chapter of the Gospel of John tells the story familiar to Christians: When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea, got into a boat and started across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them. The sea became rough because a strong wind was blowing. When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were terrified. But he said to them: "It is I, do not be afraid." (John 6:16-20) Reuters reports that FSU professor Doron Nof credits this miraculous act to an unusual combination of water and atmospheric conditions in what is now northern Israel that could have led to ice formation on the Sea of Galilee. Using statistical models to examine the dynamics of the Sea of Galilee (now known as Lake Kinneret) and records of surface temperatures of the Mediterranean Sea, Nof determined there was a period of cooler temperatures in the area between 1,500 and 2,600 years ago. This could have included the time in which Jesus lived. Read the rest by clicking link above: __________________ You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done. Ronald Reagan - 1964 ------------------------------------- Bunker Member #4.

04-05-2006, 11:32 AM	#3
ptannjr Just a dude! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ocala, Fl Posts: 6,059	This is the pic that is what CNN/Popular Mechanics said Jesus looks like in the link preacher gave. __________________ Consider this, Amateurs built the Ark, Professionals built the Titanic http://www.OcalaCarAudio.com

04-05-2006, 11:51 AM	#4
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,452	Given the complexion of the people in the area at the time I would say that's possible. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Pesident Ronald Reagan

04-06-2006, 08:22 AM	#9
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,980	Kewl, I see you made it here Cadapult. Great to have you. __________________ .................................................. ....................................… *We have met the enemy, and he is us!*

04-06-2006, 07:22 PM	#13
partssman Redneck Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Reedy Creek, NC Posts: 9,140	Catapilt...good to see you over here Buddy...... Sciencist once again trying to disprove the Bible...go figure He can say ice all he wants....I know better Features could be correct.....Jesus didn't have the customary long hair like most pics show him....why would HE tell us long hair on a man was a shame then HIM do it.....I don't want any pitcure of Christ with long hair __________________ When Injustice Becomes Law....Rebellion Becomes Duty "If you're not shootin', you should be loadin'. If you're not loadin', you should be movin', if you're not movin', someone's gonna cut your head off and put it on a stick." - Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch

04-05-2006, 11:17 AM	#2
Zane Zackerly The Mad Messenger Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great State of Insanity Posts: 4,222	Years ago there was one about the Red Sea only being a few inches deep at the time of Moses. Most preachers came back with "So all those Egyptian soldiers drowned in a few inches of water?"

04-05-2006, 12:04 PM	#5
Cephus The OLD COOT one and only Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glovers Gap WV Posts: 10,277	I'm sorry but when it comes to what he looked like it doesn't matter ,what he did does . I'll just trust in what I have read in the one book !!! I don't need a scientist to tell me what faith is !!!

04-05-2006, 12:07 PM	#6
Zane Zackerly The Mad Messenger Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great State of Insanity Posts: 4,222	I wish they hadn't made him look like a young Harry Shearer.

04-05-2006, 09:55 PM	#7
Cadapult Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Yuck State Posts: 1	I sent a respectful email to the fellow with the "walking on icebergs" theory pointing out what I feel is a flaw. It's more grasping at scientific straws, but will probably be hailed as a brilliant step toward debunking the existence of God.

04-05-2006, 10:09 PM	#8
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	to the Bunker Cadapult!!!

04-06-2006, 07:36 PM	#15
partssman Redneck Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Reedy Creek, NC Posts: 9,140	That's right......but I don't think he had long hair regardless