.45 250 grains...

4thIDvet · 03-21-2013, 02:48 AM

Hornady XTP Bullets 45 Caliber (452 Diameter) 250 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 100
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/776...int-box-of-100

Anyone ever fire these things? Damn must be like a cannon ball going down range?
Wonder if they can be shot out of a standard .45 acp? or are they for the Colt?

TinmanIA · 03-21-2013, 03:14 AM

One of the 45 guys at the last match was firing cast 250s in a modified 1911 with no compensator. He said he can load them light and still make the power requirements.

The only question then is will it have the velocity to open up, and the pressure that wont do damage. I don't know what kind of pressures it would make, but the case capacity would be lessened a bit from the increased 20 grains of bullet being stuffed in there.

I would up the recoil spring a couple pounds if I were trying this myself. I have only seen the one guy doing it, I have not seen or heard of using jacketed bullets, thats just me though.

Worst case scenario if it don't work out and you have a 45LC, you got some wicked HP's for it.

Pogo · 03-21-2013, 08:18 AM

In that the bullets have a cannelure I imagine they were intended for the .45 Long Colt.

250 grain is what I fire in mine.

hangfire · 03-21-2013, 08:45 AM

I've tried the 230 grain variety, my pistols didn't like to feed them.

4thIDvet · 03-21-2013, 09:16 AM

Most of the reviews are talking the Colt..
One review guy got a bit descriptive.. "I blew the deers front shoulders off, went clean on through." Field dressed.
If their is a working load for the .45 acp, I would not want to be down range?

Railbuggy · 03-21-2013, 09:23 AM

I bought 250 of that style at a show but could not find load data for the 1911 45acp.I loaded them up as 45 magnums for my Ruger Blackhawk in 45colt.RUGER ONLY LOADS

4thIDvet · 03-21-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Railbuggy

I bought 250 of that style at a show but could not find load data for the 1911 45acp.I loaded them up as 45 magnums for my Ruger Blackhawk in 45colt.RUGER ONLY LOADS

Yeah that is what I am thinking Rails, Colt, like the guys are sayin..
Tinman says a working load at a pistol match though?
I have been loading the 200 grain copper jacketed round nose for my .45..
I know, I know most prefer the 230.. But damn 200 heading down range is something to open ones eyes..
My God 250? Like a cannon ball.
Add: Plus I am loading light. Save powder, hard to get and help the shells last..

TinmanIA · 03-21-2013, 12:37 PM

The guy was using cast bullets though, not jhp's. I'm sure you could load them, but you would need to work up some way to make sure they expand, like a big water bucket, ot the thing with milk jugs like on the box o' truth.

Off the top of my head I would try working up a load using bulseye, or unique. That's me though, I am mentally missing some parts...

Rew · 03-24-2013, 09:22 AM

I use to load 255 grain swaged lead SWC for a target load in Germany. But I shot every week at a German gun club. The Hornady 255 grain bullets were all I could find. Loaded them over a light charge of 700X and fired them in an AMT Hardballer. Had to make do with what the Rod&Gun club sold. Here I also use .45 AR (auto rim) brass (it's a revolver now)same dies, different shell holder they load great with the .45 colt bullets but here I can get red dot or bullseye. I cast my own bullets and 700x is hard to find.

03-21-2013, 02:48 AM	#1
4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,454	.45 250 grains... Hornady XTP Bullets 45 Caliber (452 Diameter) 250 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 100 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/776...int-box-of-100 Anyone ever fire these things? Damn must be like a cannon ball going down range? Wonder if they can be shot out of a standard .45 acp? or are they for the Colt? __________________ God Bless Americas Veterans. All who are serving and have served.

03-21-2013, 03:14 AM	#2
TinmanIA Demon of the Midwest Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In a room with no windows. Posts: 4,118	One of the 45 guys at the last match was firing cast 250s in a modified 1911 with no compensator. He said he can load them light and still make the power requirements. The only question then is will it have the velocity to open up, and the pressure that wont do damage. I don't know what kind of pressures it would make, but the case capacity would be lessened a bit from the increased 20 grains of bullet being stuffed in there. I would up the recoil spring a couple pounds if I were trying this myself. I have only seen the one guy doing it, I have not seen or heard of using jacketed bullets, thats just me though. Worst case scenario if it don't work out and you have a 45LC, you got some wicked HP's for it. __________________ Don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back. 3% Throw Me To the Wolves, I Will Come Back Leading The Pack

03-21-2013, 08:18 AM	#3
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,980	In that the bullets have a cannelure I imagine they were intended for the .45 Long Colt. 250 grain is what I fire in mine. __________________ .................................................. ....................................… *We have met the enemy, and he is us!*

03-21-2013, 08:45 AM	#4
hangfire Home on the range Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S. Indiana Posts: 17,283	I've tried the 230 grain variety, my pistols didn't like to feed them. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure of the universe" -Albert Einstein-

03-21-2013, 09:23 AM	#6
Railbuggy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Taylor Creek,Ohio Posts: 7,279	I bought 250 of that style at a show but could not find load data for the 1911 45acp.I loaded them up as 45 magnums for my Ruger Blackhawk in 45colt.RUGER ONLY LOADS __________________ Im not a wannabe,Im a has-been. We already lost the war. You are the resistance.

03-21-2013, 09:16 AM	#5
4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,454	Most of the reviews are talking the Colt.. One review guy got a bit descriptive.. "I blew the deers front shoulders off, went clean on through." Field dressed. If their is a working load for the .45 acp, I would not want to be down range?

03-21-2013, 12:37 PM	#8
TinmanIA Demon of the Midwest Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In a room with no windows. Posts: 4,118	The guy was using cast bullets though, not jhp's. I'm sure you could load them, but you would need to work up some way to make sure they expand, like a big water bucket, ot the thing with milk jugs like on the box o' truth. Off the top of my head I would try working up a load using bulseye, or unique. That's me though, I am mentally missing some parts...

03-24-2013, 09:22 AM	#9
Rew Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 9,710	I use to load 255 grain swaged lead SWC for a target load in Germany. But I shot every week at a German gun club. The Hornady 255 grain bullets were all I could find. Loaded them over a light charge of 700X and fired them in an AMT Hardballer. Had to make do with what the Rod&Gun club sold. Here I also use .45 AR (auto rim) brass (it's a revolver now)same dies, different shell holder they load great with the .45 colt bullets but here I can get red dot or bullseye. I cast my own bullets and 700x is hard to find.