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01-05-2020, 09:02 AM | #1 | ||
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The United Methodist Divorce
I don't have a dog in this fight, but scripture applies to all people - not just those of any particular sect. God's Laws will not be mocked, and I would not want to be anywhere near anyone who is openly leading God's people into sin and blasphemy.
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01-05-2020, 09:45 AM | #2 |
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Someone is seeing $$$,$$$,$$$.00 signs.
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01-05-2020, 10:13 AM | #3 |
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Im offended by fags
They are very very offensive and disrespectful
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01-05-2020, 11:56 AM | #4 |
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It was about time the tares were separated.
Their philosophy as well as their acts stink.
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01-05-2020, 11:00 PM | #5 |
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Well, I'm very much in the middle of this fight. And there is a lot going on here.
First, this is only a proposal. For this to be made Church policy, it will have to be voted on at this years General Conference and passed by a simple majority. Once it passes at General Conference (our conference at the Global level), it will be sent back to all Annual Conferences (our conferences at the state level, both here and overseas) worldwide and voted on a second time, in which it must pass by a 2/3's vote at the annual conference level. Then and only then, will this plan be able to move forward. Everyone was sure this was going to be laid to rest at the special session they held last year in which they called it, The Commission on the Way Forward. We figured the vote would go in the way of perversion. But at this special session, for the first time in the history of the United Methodist Church, the United States held less than 50% of the world delegation. Before, if the US delegates banded together, we had control. But as our Churches in the US have become morally corrupt, our numbers have been declining in membership. As Churches in third world countries hungered and thirsted for the unfiltered Word of God, those Churches have been growing in numbers by astronomical amounts, specifically in Africa, Korea, and the Philippines. Some Churches in Korea growing by 200 and 300% per year. As their numbers grew, they gained delegates at the global level. As our numbers declined, we lost delegates at the global level. The Churches of Africa were very vocal on the issue of homosexuality and vowed to never let it infiltrate the Church as long as they were part of the Conference. Fortunately, they had the numbers and the delegates to back it up. And the resolution to allow perversion was voted down. Even though it has only been a year since the special session, we have continued to lose. They have continued to gain. I am thinking (and praying) that this new resolution will also be voted down at this year's General Conference. That being said, a Church split is coming in the UMC. But it is my opinion that those with the majority vote should be the ones allowed to stay and keep the name of United Methodist. The ones who want to accept perversion should be the ones forced to start their own. The tea leaves that I've been reading is that the Africa delegation feels much the same way I do, but it is still early on in the process. We knew it was coming, but hopefully they will be the ones that have to leave.
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01-06-2020, 10:55 AM | #6 |
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Divide and conquer. Bowing to the fags just like the Scouts did. The Bible is clear, just like the Constitution is clear, but liberals ignore or twist both to suit themselves. I guess hell has room for a few more souls to roast. Many more the way this country and world is going.
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03-17-2020, 11:06 AM | #7 |
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Now I'm wondering if the General Conference that is scheduled May 3 to15 will be rescheduled.
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03-17-2020, 11:44 AM | #8 | |
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In my opinion that is a good thing. In January I attended a meeting with representatives from the Wesleyan Covenant Association in Greentown, Indiana. And they explained why it would be in our favor if we left the United Methodist Church and create our own church. Most bishops in the United Methodist Church are in favor of accepting homosexual pastors and gay marriages in the church. If we separate, we can create our own book of discipline, following scripture and the word of God. |
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03-17-2020, 01:40 PM | #9 | |
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I was really routing for the UMC to shrug this filth off and get on with God's Word, as it is written. Just more of Satan's work. Brian
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03-17-2020, 01:56 PM | #10 |
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What ever happened to Men of Principal. Feel good religion is worse than no religion at all, it just compromises your beliefs.
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03-17-2020, 05:11 PM | #11 | ||
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Another good group to follow for news is the Confessing Movement of the UMC. They are certainly traditionalists as well. |
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03-18-2020, 07:35 AM | #12 |
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Nothing wrong with leaving something that has become corrupted & unclean in God's sight. "Come out from amongst them, touch not the unclean thing & I will receive you" comes to mind, Lot leaving sodom before its destruction & "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues". Yep, no problem walking away from a defiled, backslidden, apostate organisation. Broad is the path to destruction & many are on it, narrow is the path to life & few find it. God's judgement wont wait forever, Id rather be clear of it.
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10-02-2020, 09:56 PM | #13 |
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While things are on hold due to the pandemic, the Wesley Covenant Association has continued to move forward. One of the promising moves that I am liking is that licensed pastors will be considered ordained under the Order of Deacons.
Currently, licensed pastors are allowed to operate under the credentials of the district superintendent that they serve. And their license is only good for the local Church, meaning they can only practice in Churches that are assigned to them. I'm recognized by the state of WV as an ordained minister with a Bachelors Degree. But the UMC doesn't recognize my credentials, which is why I am currently serving as licensed in their book. There has been much more careful planning going on. I don't think they would be adopting a new set of bylaws and Church Constitution on a maybe. It's going to be interesting. But expect the UMC to go full-blown liberal once the conservatives start their own. |
10-03-2020, 06:12 AM | #14 |
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Liberals...... there's nothing they can't taint or FUBAR.
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11-09-2020, 10:46 AM | #15 |
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A somewhat late comment to this thread but, as a point of interest, a UM church in the Heights, which openly displayed the disgusting gay flag close by both the front (main) entrance and the back, suffered severe damage by fire earlier this year.
Foul play is not suspected - the only logical conclusion therefore being that this was an act of God.
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