Just bought an M57 - Page 2

Angry White Trash · 09-12-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtySteve

Imho, I wouldn't carry it cocked/locked unless a zombie apocalypse was afoot, and even then, I'd use the half-cocked setting.

I've heard that is good advice for carrying a Tokarev. Thanks for the reminder.

DirtySteve · 09-13-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry White Trash

I've heard that is good advice for carrying a Tokarev. Thanks for the reminder.

Sure thing. Half-cocked also locks the slide in case a "zombie" gets "aholt" of it briefly in a struggle....

JD Miller · 09-13-2013, 06:14 PM

Zastava / CZ Have always made are nice handguns and rifles and very accurate

Angry White Trash · 09-13-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Miller

Zastava / CZ Have always made are nice handguns and rifles and very accurate

I have an assortmant of Zastava Yugo built AK variants and love em all... especially the milled reciever variety! Very nice weapons indeed.

yyz · 09-13-2013, 11:54 PM

i have a Romanian TTC which is my favorite rock busting pistol. from a good sitting or kneeing position it makes long shots on rocks in the pit easy pickings. quite surprising how accurate it is at long range.

bounce · 09-14-2013, 11:07 AM

85gn for the tok...is all I've seen in the surplus stuff... romy, yugo,bulgarian...

HorseSoldier176 · 09-14-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bounce

85gn for the tok...is all I've seen in the surplus stuff... romy, yugo,bulgarian...

85gn is post GPW, after the AK became standard, and most of the subguns had been withdrawn. The 85gn ammo will cycle the PPsH-41, and PPs-43, but at a slower cyclic rate than the higher pressure 110gn ammo. The TT-30, 33 were designed for the 110gn food, but the CZ-52 was designed for the 85gn stuff.

bounce · 09-14-2013, 04:37 PM

you know of the x25 it sounds like!! I'd love to learn more!

110 gn stuff would push the tok into a passing grade for the competition stuff I've read about...the formula for IPSA or whatever it is?

lemme show you the/my x25 family..

bounce · 09-14-2013, 04:51 PM

I started the x25 shooting when it was 8 cents a round...bulgarian stuff....

classic arms cz-52s.... and some other pickups...but switched to toks after researching about the hot ammo issues

lol...I've had more issues with the pps-43 than any other gun that shoots the x25........that's why there's an 870 fcg in the pic...

Angry White Trash · 09-15-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bounce

I started the x25 shooting when it was 8 cents a round...bulgarian stuff....

classic arms cz-52s.... and some other pickups...but switched to toks after researching about the hot ammo issues

lol...I've had more issues with the pps-43 than any other gun that shoots the x25........that's why there's an 870 fcg in the pic...

That's a hell of a collection of 7.62x25 hardware.

By the way, what is the meanest round I can safely shoot in the M57? Thought I read somewhere that there was one variety of Tokarev pistol that can handle the subgun's round loaded to a much higher pressure?

HorseSoldier176 · 09-16-2013, 02:32 PM

Nice collection of children.

You need to SBR that PPs though.

bounce · 09-16-2013, 09:08 PM

angry, I dont think you could find any hot ammo anymore...but avoid Czech unless you research the headstamps to avoid any red flag ammo.

Horse, I was thinking harder about adding another shroud from a cut up kit to the ant-eater....

HorseSoldier176 · 09-17-2013, 12:55 PM

Bounce;

Have you ever seen any of the semi PPsH-41 clones with the extended shroud, or the Finnish KPs with the extended shroud?

Just my opinion, but I think they look ridiculous. Personally, I think you would be better off getting the tax stamp, and cutting off the excess barrel, then re-crown the muzzle end.

RetVet · 09-17-2013, 12:59 PM

My PPS43 has the folding stock welded in the folded position and was sold as a pistol. I like it just the way it is. It too however, is far from problem prone. Fun, but not reliable.

Got my Yugo M57 off gunbroker for about $179 if I recall. Might have been the same seller. Not pristine, but a not too badly worn either.

ESSOHBE · 09-17-2013, 08:07 PM

I'm also a big Tok fan. I got my Yugo from SOG awhile back. I fucking love it. Now I wish I had more ammo than I do though...

I picked up a Norinco 213 Tok, the 9mm ones. I can't find mags for them at all. You either have to get modified ones or you shim the inside of the grip which is probably what I'll do because I tried to weld shims onto the 9mm mags and the welds penetrate into the mag and jam the spring. I tried to file it down but can't get it perfect enough to free the spring entirely.

Anyone else got one? I'm thinking of selling it if I can and getting the other Zastava 9mm Tok.

Fuck yea.

09-13-2013, 06:14 PM	#18
JD Miller Fake Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: PNW Posts: 39,179	Zastava / CZ Have always made are nice handguns and rifles and very accurate __________________ .......

09-13-2013, 11:54 PM	#20
yyz Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UP of MICH Posts: 1,816	i have a Romanian TTC which is my favorite rock busting pistol. from a good sitting or kneeing position it makes long shots on rocks in the pit easy pickings. quite surprising how accurate it is at long range. __________________ "if you can't buy off a merc who can you trust?"

09-17-2013, 12:59 PM	#29
RetVet Statistical Error Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Homeless Posts: 43,651	My PPS43 has the folding stock welded in the folded position and was sold as a pistol. I like it just the way it is. It too however, is far from problem prone. Fun, but not reliable. Got my Yugo M57 off gunbroker for about $179 if I recall. Might have been the same seller. Not pristine, but a not too badly worn either. __________________ ^^^ For entertainment purposes. Use only as directed. ^^^ III

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09-14-2013, 11:07 AM	#21
bounce Senile Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 7310 ft .002 mach :N AZ Posts: 2,463	85gn for the tok...is all I've seen in the surplus stuff... romy, yugo,bulgarian...

09-14-2013, 04:37 PM	#23
bounce Senile Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 7310 ft .002 mach :N AZ Posts: 2,463	you know of the x25 it sounds like!! I'd love to learn more! 110 gn stuff would push the tok into a passing grade for the competition stuff I've read about...the formula for IPSA or whatever it is? lemme show you the/my x25 family..

09-14-2013, 04:51 PM	#24
bounce Senile Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 7310 ft .002 mach :N AZ Posts: 2,463	I started the x25 shooting when it was 8 cents a round...bulgarian stuff.... classic arms cz-52s.... and some other pickups...but switched to toks after researching about the hot ammo issues lol...I've had more issues with the pps-43 than any other gun that shoots the x25........that's why there's an 870 fcg in the pic...

09-16-2013, 02:32 PM	#26
HorseSoldier176 Retired Soldier Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Central PA Posts: 14,148	Nice collection of children. You need to SBR that PPs though.

09-16-2013, 09:08 PM	#27
bounce Senile Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 7310 ft .002 mach :N AZ Posts: 2,463	angry, I dont think you could find any hot ammo anymore...but avoid Czech unless you research the headstamps to avoid any red flag ammo. Horse, I was thinking harder about adding another shroud from a cut up kit to the ant-eater....

09-17-2013, 12:55 PM	#28
HorseSoldier176 Retired Soldier Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Central PA Posts: 14,148	Bounce; Have you ever seen any of the semi PPsH-41 clones with the extended shroud, or the Finnish KPs with the extended shroud? Just my opinion, but I think they look ridiculous. Personally, I think you would be better off getting the tax stamp, and cutting off the excess barrel, then re-crown the muzzle end.

09-17-2013, 08:07 PM	#30
ESSOHBE Deplorable Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Space Station Posts: 801	I'm also a big Tok fan. I got my Yugo from SOG awhile back. I fucking love it. Now I wish I had more ammo than I do though... I picked up a Norinco 213 Tok, the 9mm ones. I can't find mags for them at all. You either have to get modified ones or you shim the inside of the grip which is probably what I'll do because I tried to weld shims onto the 9mm mags and the welds penetrate into the mag and jam the spring. I tried to file it down but can't get it perfect enough to free the spring entirely. Anyone else got one? I'm thinking of selling it if I can and getting the other Zastava 9mm Tok. Fuck yea.