The 1911A1

Sanders · 12-13-2012, 11:30 AM

Somehow, I got a reputation as a 1911 guru amongst the younger guys.

My young nephew, and now one of my employees came to me for advice on purchasing a 1911. I told them to get a Rock Island or a Taurus and use the savings to buy extra mags and ammo. It's not like when we were younger and could pick up a Colt for a few hundred. My first .45 ACP was actually a Ballester-Molina that I got for $200.

These boys, well, young men now, are looking at dropping $4-$500 just for an entry level milspec model. Couple that with the price of ammo, and it is an expensive proposition for a young man to get started in the shooting sports.

10 Bears · 12-13-2012, 12:13 PM

Just a 'few' years ago, I remember buying .45s for $25 or so.
Even bought a few for $10.

Reckon those days a gone now.

aviator · 12-13-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 Bears

Just a 'few' years ago, I remember buying .45s for $25 or so.
Even bought a few for $10.

Reckon those days a gone now.

I keep telling the wife my tools are an "investment". I have stuff I bought 40 years ago still in mint condition.

DorGunR · 12-14-2012, 10:20 AM

Colt, Colt, Colt

2rogers · 12-14-2012, 10:59 AM

still wish i had a couple of the nice ones i sold,,,but thats how it goes, im satified with what i have now. nice display dorgunr!

Gus · 12-14-2012, 11:11 AM

Sounds like good advice Sanders.

Czubek · 12-14-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DorGunR

Colt, Colt, Colt

Brian

aviator · 12-14-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DorGunR

Colt, Colt, Colt

My grandfather used to say if it doesn't have the horse and the arrow it's no good.

He's been gone for forty years but I still hear him say that.

5knives · 12-14-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aviator

My grandfather used to say if it doesn't have the horse and the arrow it's no good.

He's been gone for forty years but I still hear him say that.

He was right ... 40 years ago and he's right today about the guns made 40-50 years ago!

Not so today IMHO, just another label that's been bought and sold 5 or 6 times, just like Smith and every other one of the traditional brands.

Mr. Sanders gives good advice, much as I was delighted with my Springfields, if buying today, at today's prices I'd probably be buying Rock Island's for myself. Especially if I was buying for use rather than posterity.

Regards,

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Gus · 12-14-2012, 04:19 PM

in a nut shell

dinkydow · 12-14-2012, 07:45 PM

Long as it goes bang! When I pull the trigger and the lead goes where I aim it..It does what it is supposed to do. Enemy brainpans need lead. Lead, don't care how it gets there.

Hunter07 · 12-15-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanders

Somehow, I got a reputation as a 1911 guru amongst the younger guys.

My young nephew, and now one of my employees came to me for advice on purchasing a 1911. I told them to get a Rock Island or a Taurus and use the savings to buy extra mags and ammo. It's not like when we were younger and could pick up a Colt for a few hundred. My first .45 ACP was actually a Ballester-Molina that I got for $200.

These boys, well, young men now, are looking at dropping $4-$500 just for an entry level milspec model. Couple that with the price of ammo, and it is an expensive proposition for a young man to get started in the shooting sports.

Can't hardly go wrong with a Rock Island or any of the other brands that Armscorr manufactures.

Good advice on the extra mags & ammo.

I still love my Springfield's though.

Sanders · 12-15-2012, 09:40 PM

Nephew called me today and asked me about a Citadel 1911A1. He was at a gun show in Tucson, and I was in Albuquerque, but I knew it was made by Armscor, as well. Anyway, he wound up buying it then getting a few extra mags and a couple hundred rounds of ammo.

I hope to hear from him on how it shoots before long.

Here's what I found on their importer's website:

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Absolutely the best triggers out of the box for an entry level 1911.

Available in Full Size or Compact, Wood or Hogue Synthetic grips, and in .45 ACP or .38 Super. These 1911 semi-autos pack a lot of extra features without the extra price! These 1911's also come in matte black, polished nickel, brushed nickel and in the limited edition Wounded Warrior Commemorative* finishes. Built by Armscor (Rock Island Armory), the Citadel M-1911 series offers solid performance and reliability for sport shooting, concealed carry and general shooting. Each pistol comes with a lockable, hard plastic case.

http://www.legacysports.com/products/cit_m1911.html

Hunter07 · 12-16-2012, 12:12 AM

My son has a Citadel "Commander's model" (4" barrel), and has put about 1000 rounds through it with no malf's what-so-ever.

I've ran a couple mags of rounds through it. Muzzle 'flip' is no worse than a full size, 5" Gov't model. Nice pistol! I wouldn't mind having one.

I think my son paid right at $500 for it and it has many of the same features as my 5" Gov't/full size Springfield 'Loaded' model that I paid $700 for.

Sanders · 12-16-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter07

My son has a Citadel "Commander's model" (4" barrel), and has put about 1000 rounds through it with no malf's what-so-ever.

I've ran a couple mags of rounds through it. Muzzle 'flip' is no worse than a full size, 5" Gov't model. Nice pistol! I wouldn't mind having one.

I think my son paid right at $500 for it and it has many of the same features as my 5" Gov't/full size Springfield 'Loaded' model that I paid $700 for.

I have the same Springfield "Loaded" model. I don't know how many rounds I have through it. Lost count a long time ago, but there was a time I was putting 200 rounds a week down range for a year straight - back when Wolf was $7.00/50 at the fun store.

I didn't pay anything for my Springfield, though. I swapped a Franchi SPAS12 for it. Best trade I ever made. That SPAS12 was a white elephant.

12-13-2012, 11:30 AM	#1
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,557	The 1911A1 Somehow, I got a reputation as a 1911 guru amongst the younger guys. My young nephew, and now one of my employees came to me for advice on purchasing a 1911. I told them to get a Rock Island or a Taurus and use the savings to buy extra mags and ammo. It's not like when we were younger and could pick up a Colt for a few hundred. My first .45 ACP was actually a Ballester-Molina that I got for $200. These boys, well, young men now, are looking at dropping $4-$500 just for an entry level milspec model. Couple that with the price of ammo, and it is an expensive proposition for a young man to get started in the shooting sports. __________________ "The truly dangerous man dresses inconspicuously and is soft- spoken. He walks away from most confrontations. The only time you learn that the truly dangerous man is mad at you is a split second before you die, for he never fights. He only kills. The truly dangerous man knows that fighting is what children do and killing is what men do." - Charley Reese 1986 3

12-14-2012, 07:45 PM	#11
dinkydow Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 96,516	Long as it goes bang! When I pull the trigger and the lead goes where I aim it..It does what it is supposed to do. Enemy brainpans need lead. Lead, don't care how it gets there. __________________ Our forefathers would have already been shooting...by now. "Let your plans be dark and as impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." "Violence of action means the unrestricted use of speed,strength, surprise and aggression to achieve total dominance against your enemy...any fighting technique is useless unless you totally commit to violence of action." Burning huts in commy vills worldwide since 1968

12-13-2012, 12:13 PM	#2
10 Bears Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: E-Da-How Posts: 137,846	Just a 'few' years ago, I remember buying .45s for $25 or so. Even bought a few for $10. Reckon those days a gone now.

12-14-2012, 10:20 AM	#4
DorGunR Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 30,905	Colt, Colt, Colt

12-14-2012, 10:59 AM	#5
2rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,504	still wish i had a couple of the nice ones i sold,,,but thats how it goes, im satified with what i have now. nice display dorgunr!

12-14-2012, 11:11 AM	#6
Gus Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 66,849	Sounds like good advice Sanders.

12-14-2012, 04:19 PM	#10
Gus Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 66,849	in a nut shell

12-16-2012, 12:12 AM	#14
Hunter07 I'm a grumpy SOB Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Posts: 10,530	My son has a Citadel "Commander's model" (4" barrel), and has put about 1000 rounds through it with no malf's what-so-ever. I've ran a couple mags of rounds through it. Muzzle 'flip' is no worse than a full size, 5" Gov't model. Nice pistol! I wouldn't mind having one. I think my son paid right at $500 for it and it has many of the same features as my 5" Gov't/full size Springfield 'Loaded' model that I paid $700 for.