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Old 12-05-2017, 02:11 PM   #1
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Default Long list of hoops to jump through for a CMP 1911

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To all CMP constituents:

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions further clarified:

Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
A NICS background check will be performed by CMP on the customer to assure the customer is eligible to purchase prior to shipment to the FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a "proceed" from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a "proceed" from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer.
The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person at the FFL dealers place of business, successfully passing a NICS check performed by the FFL holder, before the pistol can be transferred. This is a second NICS check performed on the customer.
Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a "store front" FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one performed by CMP and the other performed by the FFL dealer the pistol is being shipped to.


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Civilian Marksmanship Program
Take it for what it is worth. This came by email from the CMP
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Old 12-05-2017, 02:59 PM   #2
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I've already accepted that I won't be buying one due to price. I'm a shooter. If I'm going to drop $1,000 to $2,000 on a 1911, it will most likely say Baer or some other custom maker's name on the side of it.

At least they are restricting it to one per year to keep the re-sellers from buying them up. Not that they won't find a way around the restrictions....
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:14 PM   #3
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I got that email, too. I'm sure there will be plenty of buyers fighting for them but I won't be one of them. I'll just keep checking pawn shops and private sales.
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:46 PM   #4
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When I think of how much PRACTICE AMMO $1200-$2000 will buy, I'll look elsewhere for my toys.
I am however, glad that they're not going out McShitStains way.
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Fuck that .
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:10 AM   #6
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Two NICS checks for a worn out 1911, um no.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:32 AM   #7
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Nope not for me. Join clubs two background checks pay top dollar nah. Hell the .45 I shot at Ft. Polk I had to aim a foot to the left to hit the damn target. I grew up around guns and could see where it was hitting.
Scored expert guys around me said how you do dat?
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:54 AM   #8
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Sounds like a lib made up those rules...
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Sounds like a lib made up those rules...
Their going to be cracking down on these background checks I feel? The Air Force is getting sued for not reporting that last nut case whack ball. Not sure what he did in the AF but it was not good and they never turned the files over to the criminal check depts.?

"Texas Victim's Family Files First Claim Against U.S. Air Force Over Church Massacre"

"The administrative claim, which was filed directly with the Air Force in Washington, said the military acted negligently when it failed to report the criminal record of gunman Devin Kelly to a federal database that would have prevented him from legally purchasing a firearm."

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017...g-lawsuit.html
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Fuck that .
Absolutely...

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Old 12-08-2017, 01:48 PM   #11
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Nope....

Too much paperwork
Too much BS
Too much money
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Plus the fact the best examples will go to CMP insiders or their politician friends.
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Plus the fact the best examples will go to CMP insiders or their politician friends.
Yes.


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As a machine gunner, I was assigned one. I drew it out only to qualify, for inspections, and I would draw it when I was on the division Quick Reaction Force.

Other than that, I never drew it to carry in the field. Just something else I'd have to keep track of and clean when we returned.
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The procedure is probably designed to totally discourage
private buyers from obtaining said curios & relics.
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