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Old 06-11-2018, 09:38 AM   #16
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:20 AM   #17
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From Brownells I ordered a Series 80 slot filler. That is to fill the slot when you remove the unnecessary firing pin safety. https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...prod13121.aspx

From Brownells I ordered a Wilson Combat spring kit. https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...prod59701.aspx

When I said "Trigger Kit", I actually meant "Hammer Kit" as this is what affects the pull of the trigger. It includes a matched hammer, sear, and disconnector.

There are three well known companies that manufacture reduced pull hammer kits: Ed Brown, Nowlin, and Cylinder & Slide. There are other lesser known companies as well. They are all similarily priced with a couple of companies very high priced. I've done a lot of research and it seems Cylinder & Slide is a favorite among shooters who build up their own race gun. Cylinder & Slide builds race guns as well. http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index....show&ref=GRFIS

I ordered my hammer kit directly from Cylinder & Slide. https://cylinder-slide.com/Item/CS0372


I measured the trigger pull on my Colt 1911. And as it is now it has a 5.5 lb pull. The new hammer kit should drop it to approx 4 lbs. And the Wilson Combat spring kit has a reduced hammer spring that will drop the hammer tension from approx 23# to 18.5#. That should cause the trigger pull to drop about another 1/2 lb which would leave my trigger pull at appprox. 3.5 lbs which is what I want.

Now the reason I ordered a full spring kit is because you can't just reduce the hammer spring. If you did that, that would affect the timing of the slide. The slide would move to the rear too fast causing an erratic failure to eject.

The spring kit includes a heavier recoil spring which balances out the lowered lb hammer spring, and properly slows down the rearward thrust of the slide.

Another option a person tuning a 1911 has is to slightly bend to the rear the trigger spring prong in the flat main spring. I probably won't do that until I check the trigger pull after I have installed the new components.
Thank you, John. That Series 80 filler is great. I only have one Series 80, out of all the 1911's that live here, but there IS a noticeable difference in trigger pull with the Series 70 models.

Thanks again!

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Old 06-11-2018, 10:24 AM   #18
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Thank you, John. That Series 80 filler is great. I only have one Series 80, out of all the 1911's that live here, but there IS a noticeable difference in trigger pull with the Series 70 models.

Thanks again!

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In addition to removing the 80 series parts and replacing them with the slot filler in the frame, is you have to remove the firing pin safety plunger in the slide.

That is easily done by removing the firing pin and then pulling out the plunger.
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In addition to removing the 80 series parts and replacing them with the slot filler in the frame, is you have to remove the firing pin safety plunger in the slide.

That is easily done by removing the firing pin and then pulling out the plunger.
Right. I had already figured on that. I'll keep the parts I remove in a bag in the box. A weird habit, I guess.

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Right. I had already figured on that. I'll keep the parts I remove in a bag in the box. A weird habit, I guess.

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I also do that with all of the guns I own.
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:25 PM   #21
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which would leave my trigger pull at appprox. 3.5 lbs which is what I want.
Sir, is this a carry piece or is it for beating up on B-27 Targets?
I've carried cocked and locked all my life, and am quite comfortable with it.
But I'm not sure I'd go as low as 3lbs for an EDC.
My only modern Colt is a not-so-modern Series 70 Combat Commander in 9mm. I only use it now to shoot bowling pins with people that aren't comfortable with the report from my Mod29s. It's a 98% gun and the bluing is exquisite. Typical of the S&W and Colt work from before Affirmative Action.
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Sir, is this a carry piece or is it for beating up on B-27 Targets?
Both target and occasional carry.

In the middle 1911 I have the trigger set to 2 lbs. I don't carry it. It's for target only. In the top one, which is a Sig, I have it set to 3.5 lbs like I plan to do with my new one. A 3.5 lb trigger is quite safe if one remembers to keep their finger off the trigger. And of course that means securing them in a proper holster when not holding in your hand.

I already reduced one irritant of my new gun. It must have taken 50 lbs of pressure to push in the magazine catch. Holy cow, I've never had a gun with one that stiff. I removed the magazine catch and cut about 4 coils off of the magazine catch spring and reassembled it. Now it is about normal.

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Nice Pony and very nice pic of the 'Herd'!
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But if you've ever reached down and felt your mag loose in the magwell, you might rethink the stiffness on that mag catch button. Had it happen to me with a small of the back holster - and the mag catch button was covered by leather. It was unnerving to think I could have lost the mag and never known it.
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It still takes about 7-8 lbs pressure to push in. When I first got it it took I'm guessing about 20 lbs to push in. It was way heavier than my other 1911s.

Later I installed a new sear and hammer and refitted the existing thumb safety to the new parts. I now have a 3.5 lb trigger pull.
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