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Old 07-03-2017, 10:50 AM   #1
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Flashing Arrow The Secret Weapon That Never Really Was – The Pedersen Device

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There were secret weapons and then there was the Pedersen Device, an unlikely adoption of the Model 1903 rifle by arms designer John D. Pedersen. But the “top secret” designation for this device was because of the misguided belief that it could become a war-changing miniature machine gun – not an unimportant consideration in The War To End All Wars.
Interesting article.

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Old 07-03-2017, 11:19 AM   #2
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That would be something to have...
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Old 07-03-2017, 11:27 AM   #3
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Last year I went to a local gun show and they had a separate room for collectors to show their stuff that was not for sale. There was a lot of interesting things including a guy that had a 1903 Mark I with a Pedersen device. It only took him a few seconds to switch from regular bolt to the PD. I think it could very well have been a game-changer had it actually seen action.
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Once again the stupid govt. cancelled something that could have been a game changer.
And it was all about the 'caliber' of the cartridge.
That and fear mongering over wars.
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I have a 1903 Mark I. Pederson devices are about as rare as it gets.
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I have a 1903 Mark I. Pederson devices are about as rare as it gets.
I have one, too. I offered the guy $50 for it but he wouldn't sell.
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I'm sure if I could get my hands on one to reverse-engineer I could machine some of my own.
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I'm sure if I could get my hands on one to reverse-engineer I could machine some of my own.
Could a person get a copy of the

patent, with the diagrams for it?...

Try pederson device blueprints
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Could a person get a copy of the

patent, with the diagrams for it?...

Try pederson device blueprints
It's probable, but a lot of patent drawings don't have dimensions.
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I don't know about game changer, it was chambered for the .32 S&W (I have a couple of the cartridges, and yes, it is the same size as the .32 ACP, which makes IDing them a pain in the rear) so it was not very powerful. Sure I wouldn't want to get shot with them, but it was no 9mm Para or .45 ACP.
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The fucking retard which wrote this should realize the Pedersen Device is SEMI-AUTOMATIC and thus not a "war changing minature machinegun". Must be another "expert" gun writer. The Pedersen device might have been useful in WW I, But is awkward and underpowered. The U.S. military would have been much better off issuing A few Winchester M1907s with 15 round magazines to each squad, Much like the Thompson SMG was issued in WW II. The 351 Winchester is a much more effective round that the 30 Pedersen.
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