I'm wanting a long/heavy barrel AK, options? - Page 3

Pvt.Joker · 10-02-2013, 03:15 AM

My AES-10B import version, finished out to resemble a Russian RPKN...

TheGreek! · 10-02-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pvt.Joker

My AES-10B import version, finished out to resemble a Russian RPKN...

I was thinking on building one of my romy RPK kits into a Russian clone. Is that brake correct for a Russian RPK? I'm not familiar with whats "standard equipment" on the Russian RPK's which is why I ask.

ESSOHBE · 10-02-2013, 04:29 PM

^ That's awesome.

bounce · 10-02-2013, 09:41 PM

^^^titties

Carne Frio · 10-03-2013, 10:33 AM

The finest example of a long barreled Ak is
likely the Polytech Legend National Match.

TheGreek! · 10-03-2013, 11:19 AM

Gonna have to disagree, I don't like anything that has "made in china" on it. China has never been known to produce anything of high quality. I cant think of one thing that is made in china that can compete with a comparable euro or American made product. Polytechs and norincos only cost a lot because of artificial unavailability, not because there was anything exceptionally good about them. The Chinese AK's are world famous for being made of low quality steel and not having the greatest fit and finish. Personally I think the Yugo AK's are the finest example of an AK. I think the finest example of a long barreled AK is the milled receiver heavy barrel Yugo RPK.

HorseSoldier176 · 10-03-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreek!

I was thinking on building one of my romy RPK kits into a Russian clone. Is that brake correct for a Russian RPK? I'm not familiar with whats "standard equipment" on the Russian RPK's which is why I ask.

Based on some very cursory research, it appears the the Soviets/Russian Federation did not apply muzzle brakes, or flash hiders on their RPKs.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...+RPK&FORM=IGRE

HorseSoldier176 · 10-03-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreek!

Gonna have to disagree, I don't like anything that has "made in china" on it. China has never been known to produce anything of high quality. I cant think of one thing that is made in china that can compete with a comparable euro or American made made product. Polytechs and norincos only cost a lot because of artificial unavailability, not because there was anything exceptionally good about them. The Chinese AK's are world famous for being made of low quality steel and not having the greatest fit and finish. Personally I think the Yugo AK's are the finest example of an AK. I think the finest example of a long barreled AK is the milled receiver heavy barrel Yugo RPK.

The only point I would disagree with you on is this.

Yugo Ks are produced on machines manufactured in Yugoslavia, or Romania. Bulgarian (Arsenal), on the other hand uses Soviet/Russian made machines. Many of the Arsenal machines were actually made by, or for Ivetsk, so the Bulgarian weapons are as close to a Soviet/Russian made AK that you can get, short of smuggling in, or buying from the Russian mob, a Russian made AK.

TheGreek! · 10-03-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseSoldier176

The only point I would disagree with you on is this.

Yugo Ks are produced on machines manufactured in Yugoslavia, or Romania. Bulgarian (Arsenal), on the other hand uses Soviet/Russian made machines. Many of the Arsenal machines were actually made by, or for Ivetsk, so the Bulgarian weapons are as close to a Soviet/Russian made AK that you can get, short of smuggling in, or buying from the Russian mob, a Russian made AK.

Personally I think Arsenals are nice but I cant understand all the hype about them. They're very good guns but not really any better than a decent Yugo because they're both top-of-the-line AK's. As far as being as close as possible to a Russian AK goes the Arsenal looks more like the Russian AK because the wood on a Yugo doesn't look like the other comblock countries wood and isn't interchangeable with it. But the yugo's use the heavier profile Russian AK-47 style barrel, if I'm not mistaken the Arsenal uses the slightly thinner AKM style barrels. I like the milled Arsenals and I'd probably have one if they didn't cost so much. I wish Zastava would start sending some milled M70's over here and put a reasonable price on them. RPK's are another story though, in that case all of them seem to be good no matter where it comes from (except from china of course, lol).

Pvt.Joker · 10-03-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseSoldier176

Based on some very cursory research, it appears the the Soviets/Russian Federation did not apply muzzle brakes, or flash hiders on their RPKs.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...+RPK&FORM=IGRE

On the RPK; no. This is a clone of the RPKN, however, and the flash hider was used because it was a night scoped version. Older copies of "Book of the AK" have a few articles on them. Mine would be close for one with the older NSP-3A night scope, although right now my only Russian night scope is my 1pn58 that pulls double duty for this AND my ..308 NDM-86 Dragunov.

OK; here's a couple of photos of it with the scope on, both with the drum and with the bakelite mag:

As to Greek's question; I got this flash hider from Brick (same guy that does a lot of the retro AR parts) and was VERY happy with the quality. It looks like the one for the Tabuk, until you hold one of these next to one of those. There are a few differences.

LAGERO · 10-08-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGreek!

Gonna have to disagree, I don't like anything that has "made in china" on it. China has never been known to produce anything of high quality. I cant think of one thing that is made in china that can compete with a comparable euro or American made product. Polytechs and norincos only cost a lot because of artificial unavailability, not because there was anything exceptionally good about them. The Chinese AK's are world famous for being made of low quality steel and not having the greatest fit and finish. Personally I think the Yugo AK's are the finest example of an AK. I think the finest example of a long barreled AK is the milled receiver heavy barrel Yugo RPK.

I dunno, I have a Norinco and it is built top notch. I do agree that the Chinese are known for producing shit exports, but when it comes to polytechs and norincos it seems that they pulled out all the stops. Fitment and finish are quality. I would take a Chinese Ak over a Maadi anyday (though I own both

).

AlphaTango4 · 10-09-2013, 08:28 AM

If Greek is offering to sell you one of his builds id strongly suggest you take him up on it. They are top shelf and he doesnt just offer them to everyone.

Dave Williams · 10-25-2013, 07:10 PM

J&G sales has RPK's for $499 biggest heaviest barrel you can get as far as I know. Cheap too, no bi-pod though.

Ando4 · 10-26-2013, 01:34 PM

Is that an R pg On that RPK!

Pvt.Joker · 10-26-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ando4

Is that an R pg On that RPK!

Nope; a 1pn58 Soviet night scope. Although, they did have a BDC cam for the night scope for using on an RPG-7.

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Pvt.Joker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,984	My AES-10B import version, finished out to resemble a Russian RPKN... __________________ Will someone kindly tell me how in the fuck did we wake up one day all these years later and find ourselves living in an Ayn Rand novel?

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Carne Frio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Fairbanks Posts: 1,427	The finest example of a long barreled Ak is likely the Polytech Legend National Match. __________________ I'm thinking that we are going to need a lot more rope before this is over.

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ESSOHBE Deplorable Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Space Station Posts: 801	^ That's awesome.

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10-03-2013, 11:19 AM	#36
TheGreek! Prepare for glory! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,604	Gonna have to disagree, I don't like anything that has "made in china" on it. China has never been known to produce anything of high quality. I cant think of one thing that is made in china that can compete with a comparable euro or American made product. Polytechs and norincos only cost a lot because of artificial unavailability, not because there was anything exceptionally good about them. The Chinese AK's are world famous for being made of low quality steel and not having the greatest fit and finish. Personally I think the Yugo AK's are the finest example of an AK. I think the finest example of a long barreled AK is the milled receiver heavy barrel Yugo RPK.

10-09-2013, 08:28 AM	#42
AlphaTango4 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 49	If Greek is offering to sell you one of his builds id strongly suggest you take him up on it. They are top shelf and he doesnt just offer them to everyone.

10-25-2013, 07:10 PM	#43
Dave Williams Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 13	J&G sales has RPK's for $499 biggest heaviest barrel you can get as far as I know. Cheap too, no bi-pod though.

10-26-2013, 01:34 PM	#44
Ando4 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 5	Is that an R pg On that RPK!