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Old 06-10-2015, 08:01 PM   #1
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Default Decent starter kayak?

I know some of you all are kayakers, and I've decided I want to start in the sport.

I'm looking for something that will allow me to go in shallow rivers, creeks, and still be able to go out on lakes.

Keep in mind that I'm not a little guy, either. Does size matter with the kayaks and size of the person?

I found this one on Craigs list, as an example - a 10' boat. Should I think about a longer one?


What should I look for as far as quality and price goes?

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Old 06-10-2015, 08:45 PM   #2
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I've thought about getting a kayak. When I got to thinking about it I figured a canoe would be a better option. When I priced what I wanted in a canoe I figured the money could be used for guns & ammo.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:02 PM   #3
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I prefer a flat bottom canoe, in most cases they are self righting.
Unless you have an idiot with you that wants to stand up.
Floatation chambers in the bow and the stern help also.

I'm not a kayaker, now Pogo can give you some good pointers though.
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Old 06-11-2015, 08:25 AM   #4
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I've had some bad canoe experiences.

Besides, I'm afraid I'll lose all my guns if I get a canoe.
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Old 06-11-2015, 08:47 AM   #5
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I've had some bad canoe experiences.

Besides, I'm afraid I'll lose all my guns if I get a canoe.
Some of us already have. Dang meteorite hit right close and rolled us over.


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Old 06-11-2015, 09:16 AM   #6
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That boat in your link is a pretty nice one, and the money isn't too bad for the boat.

Perception makes really good boats, stay away from Pelicans though...
If you don't mind a sit on top, the Dimension Typhoon is a very stable choice, used by rental places for years. Sometimes in the off season you can get used ones from your local outfitter. Sometimes they even have the pod for the back...
Being a larger fellow, you will likely want a 10' or so kayak. More length = more weight capacity and better tracking, but longer boats are slower to handle on creeks.
I believe 10.5' would be a sweet spot for all around usage... I currently have a 9.5' for my 200 lbs...

A friend of ours has a 12' Patriot that seems pretty nice, with a very large cockpit opening.

Old Town kayaks are tippy as hell under 10' FYI. The little gal above had a sit in OT and we have a sit on, and they both go over pretty easily.

BTW, considering lake use. It is much easier getting back into the boat when you can't touch bottom with a sit on top... a sit in is almost impossible to get back into in deep water. The odds on tipping on a lake are very low though.
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Old 06-11-2015, 12:12 PM   #7
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Sanders, you are a big guy. You might ask him if you could try it out before buying it. That looks like it would be too small for you.

As mentioned by Stoned_Oli, it depends on what kind of water you will be in and what you want to do.

I don't do whitewater kayaking so I prefer a larger kayak. I have a 12' and a 14' Pungo by Wilderness Systems. They are a little wider and are very stable. They are good for fishing out of. They have a slight keel which makes it better for large open bodies of water. If you are going to be kayaking
in shallow creeks, you are better off without a keel.

My wife used a 12' Carolina by Perception. We liked going out into Lake Michigan and Lake Superior on days when there was little wind. I have an 18' wooden kayak which is sleeker and made for open water.
I've had it out on Lake Superior when there was a brisk wind. It handled well in that situation. I've also had it out in the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic.

If you are older and not real flexible, you might want to think about getting one with a large cockpit. It makes it a lot easier to get in and out. And a
sit on top is even easier to get on and off. I like large cockpits myself. My wood kayak does have a small cockpit which makes it nice for using a full skirt when in big water.

Here 14' Pungo

3 by John Danley, on Flickr

Kayak on Cart by John Danley, on Flickr

And my 12' Pungo

Pungo with rod holder by John Danley, on Flickr

And my blue 12' Pungo that I bought for my grandkids. This is my friend in it now.

5 by John Danley, on Flickr

And my 18' wood kayak. Notice the small cockpit.

This is where I store most of my kayaks.

And this is my son taking the grankids kayaking. He's using my kayak trailor.

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