Swiss Rifle Bayonets

zfk55 · 07-21-2018, 10:45 AM

I noticed a number of old posts about Bayonets and Rifles with matching bayonets.

The chance of an existing, original issue bayonet to the original rifle is slim . As proven by the approximate 2,000 Bayonets the I assisted Graf's having imported, Bayonets were stocked by Bern and later, a number of Armouries, all without serial numbers.

When an issue bayonet was damaged or lost, a new bayonet was issued to that soldier's rifle with that rifle's serial number. The chances of it having remained with the original rifle are both remote and absolutely unprovable. As it was entirely impractical and unnecessary and those issued bayonets were not logged in a permanent register in Bern............. However..........

Sad to say that a number of importers bringing in those same bayonets released by Bern and three other Armouries in 2016, factually re-numbered some (or a lot) of them to match in-stock k31s and/or G11s.......... and, no..... I'm not going to disclose my sources. It is what it is, Gents.

zfk55 · 07-21-2018, 10:54 AM

I meant to post a photo of those I brought in. All brand new from the 1930's and 40's............ unissued and unmarked, and, sorry, but I don't sell bayonets or rifle parts. I just collect them.

cerberus · 07-21-2018, 06:35 PM

zfk, at the risk of asking a fng a tacky question, what value should I put on it if I were to come across one at a fun show?
cerberus

4thIDvet · 07-21-2018, 08:13 PM

The worst words to ever come out of your sergeants mouth. "Fix bayonets."

zfk55 · 07-21-2018, 08:49 PM

Cerberus, $60 absolute max. A very good one should actually be in the $50 range........
Bayonets from the same group above went for $55 full bore retail.

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zfk55 · 07-21-2018, 08:59 PM

4thIDvet..................

"Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
No surrender. Fight to the death."

Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

Bluntforce · 07-21-2018, 09:21 PM

Do you know of a current source for the 1918?

zfk55 · 07-22-2018, 08:42 AM

I'll see what I can find among my contacts.

P

Bluntforce · 07-22-2018, 09:41 AM

Thank you.

07-21-2018, 10:45 AM	#1
zfk55 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 20	Swiss Rifle Bayonets I noticed a number of old posts about Bayonets and Rifles with matching bayonets. The chance of an existing, original issue bayonet to the original rifle is slim . As proven by the approximate 2,000 Bayonets the I assisted Graf's having imported, Bayonets were stocked by Bern and later, a number of Armouries, all without serial numbers. When an issue bayonet was damaged or lost, a new bayonet was issued to that soldier's rifle with that rifle's serial number. The chances of it having remained with the original rifle are both remote and absolutely unprovable. As it was entirely impractical and unnecessary and those issued bayonets were not logged in a permanent register in Bern............. However.......... Sad to say that a number of importers bringing in those same bayonets released by Bern and three other Armouries in 2016, factually re-numbered some (or a lot) of them to match in-stock k31s and/or G11s.......... and, no..... I'm not going to disclose my sources. It is what it is, Gents.

07-21-2018, 08:13 PM	#4
4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,509	The worst words to ever come out of your sergeants mouth. "Fix bayonets." __________________ God Bless Americas Veterans. All who are serving and have served.

07-21-2018, 09:21 PM	#7
Bluntforce slug Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Allturd State Posts: 21,908	Do you know of a current source for the 1918? __________________

07-21-2018, 10:54 AM	#2
zfk55 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 20	I meant to post a photo of those I brought in. All brand new from the 1930's and 40's............ unissued and unmarked, and, sorry, but I don't sell bayonets or rifle parts. I just collect them.

07-21-2018, 06:35 PM	#3
cerberus Dud Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 2,507	zfk, at the risk of asking a fng a tacky question, what value should I put on it if I were to come across one at a fun show? cerberus

07-21-2018, 08:49 PM	#5
zfk55 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 20	Cerberus, $60 absolute max. A very good one should actually be in the $50 range........ Bayonets from the same group above went for $55 full bore retail. P

07-21-2018, 08:59 PM	#6
zfk55 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 20	4thIDvet.................. "Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death." Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

07-22-2018, 08:42 AM	#8
zfk55 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 20	I'll see what I can find among my contacts. P

07-22-2018, 09:41 AM	#9
Bluntforce slug Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Allturd State Posts: 21,908	Thank you.