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Old 01-07-2017, 10:43 AM   #1
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Default Any wood refinishing ideas for U.S.G.I Type firearms.

I have a Auto-Ordnance Thompson semi-auto carbine, I am planning on refinishing the wood.I want to give the wood a more vintage look,something darker,more flat.Any ideas about removing the old finish?,are you supposed to use a dye along with a stain?.Any ideas,first hand expierence would be appreiciated.
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I don't like using sand paper on a gun stock because it will grind away too much wood.

Start with paint remover and then finish up with these. These maroon ones are made from Aluminum Oxide and won't rust like steel wool and leave a stain on your wood.

I was getting ready to post a picture of these in the picture area. I'm making a dining room table and these are great for final preparation of the wood.


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If you want to stain it, it will depend on what kind of wood it is. If the wood is extremely hard like Maple or Cherry it is difficult to get an even shade because of varying density of the wood. It is best put a sealer on it first like Zinsser Bulls Eye Seal Coat. That will help in getting an even color on all of the woods. If the wood is walnut or oak or similar it probably won't need a sanding sealer.

I'd use General Finishes gel stain instead of Minwax stain on a gun. For the final finish you can use either an oil or a wipe on poly. Oil is more traditional for gun stocks.
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Those scotch brite pads are good on pots and pans also.
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Listen to Pogo, he is a Master Carpenter, among other things. He knows wood.
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Boiled linseed oil.
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Boiled linseed is excellent, but it takes quite a while to cure. Myself, I don't like straight Tung oil. It's not that durable.

Brownells sells a "PRO-Custom gunstock finish that you can get excellent results with. The key is to use many light applications - at least 10. Just put a dab on your palm and rub it in. The heat really pushes it into the pores of the wood and makes a good seal. After at least 10 coats you then rub it out to either gloss or satin, depending on what you want.

Pro Custom gunstock finish: http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...-prod5531.aspx


Rubbing compound: http://www.brownells.com/search/inde...ound&ksubmit=y
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If you want to stain it, it will depend on what kind of wood it is. If the wood is extremely hard like Maple or Cherry it is difficult to get an even shade because of varying density of the wood. It is best put a sealer on it first like Zinsser Bulls Eye Seal Coat. That will help in getting an even color on all of the woods. If the wood is walnut or oak or similar it probably won't need a sanding sealer.

I'd use General Finishes gel stain instead of Minwax stain on a gun. For the final finish you can use either an oil or a wipe on poly. Oil is more traditional for gun stocks.
In addition to what Pogo has said and for that more 'vintage' look you're looking for, you might want to do some research on glaze finishing. Glaze is often used after a stain or dye to add a 'vintage' or 'aged patina' look to wood. For example, it can add additional darkened color to such things as scratches or gouges in the wood, which is how a weathered wood of that type would look after many years of age.
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Laurel Mountain Forge stain is good stuff
http://www.laurelmountainforge.com/stain.htm

Ive used Daleys tung oil, Teak oil, and straight linseed oil. Ive also used bone black to blacken the grain/pours on some custom rifle stocks.
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Heated pine tar might give the look you want. There's a guy on YouTube that does it to his Mosin stocks they come out very dark. His name is Logcabinlooms and one of the vids is named A sermon on pine tar. Don't watch his non-instructional vids, outside of skills he's a flake and what's worse an annoying one.

There are a lot of people on there using dyes. Rit dye has changed formulas a few years ago so you want to watch a newer one.

I dyed a stock in '10 using the vids as my guide. Turned out well. Two years ago I did a Mosin. Very happy with the dye, the Mosin is a truck/barn/cache gun and is ugly enough.
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