Why the Colt Offensive Handgun lost the bid to make the next SOCOM handgun

Pogo · 12-03-2018, 03:24 PM

I never saw what Colt entered in the competition. I just found it on YouTube. H&K won, and I can see why Colt lost. The entry by Colt was a Rube Goldberg device.

It was about as intricate as a Luger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnY6FSLFy3c

aviator · 12-03-2018, 04:16 PM

KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid.

CZ-75A · 03-26-2019, 09:11 PM

It even looks like some abortion some guy cobbled together in his garage from a box of spare parts from a variety of different handguns. I'm sure ze Germans had something that looked production-ready from the start. America used to be able to do great things, but we started sucking when top management started signing off on "it's good enough" designs that tried to maximize production values from existing ideas so they could slap together something cheaply with already amortized equipment and R&D.

CDawg · 04-01-2019, 09:18 AM

It's definitely a work in progress. I actually like most of their ideas, just not their execution. With more time and improvement I think it had potential, but it was definitely not ready for prime time when submitted. I'm sure they knew that. ...but time constraints are time constraints.

MrKalashnikov · 04-01-2019, 12:37 PM

Why try to reinvent the wheel when you have proven performers out there like Glock & SIG?

2rogers · 04-09-2019, 07:25 AM

Kinda pitiful.

silvermane_1 · 04-14-2019, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZ-75A

It even looks like some abortion some guy cobbled together in his garage from a box of spare parts from a variety of different handguns. I'm sure ze Germans had something that looked production-ready from the start. America used to be able to do great things, but we started sucking when top management started signing off on "it's good enough" designs that tried to maximize production values from existing ideas so they could slap together something cheaply with already amortized equipment and R&D.

+1, it's all about profit margins, not innovative designs.

12-03-2018, 03:24 PM	#1
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,967	Why the Colt Offensive Handgun lost the bid to make the next SOCOM handgun I never saw what Colt entered in the competition. I just found it on YouTube. H&K won, and I can see why Colt lost. The entry by Colt was a Rube Goldberg device. It was about as intricate as a Luger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnY6FSLFy3c __________________ .................................................. ....................................… *We have met the enemy, and he is us!*

12-03-2018, 04:16 PM	#2
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,374	KISS Keep It Simple Stupid. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Pesident Ronald Reagan

04-01-2019, 09:18 AM	#4
CDawg slug Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 12,270	It's definitely a work in progress. I actually like most of their ideas, just not their execution. With more time and improvement I think it had potential, but it was definitely not ready for prime time when submitted. I'm sure they knew that. ...but time constraints are time constraints. __________________ "Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning" Erwin Rommel A Chief Petty Officer shall not drink. However, if he should drink he shall not get drunk. If he should get drunk, he shall not stagger. And if he should stagger, he shall not fall. And if he should fall, he will fall in such a manner as to cover up his rank so that passersby will think he is an officer.

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03-26-2019, 09:11 PM	#3
CZ-75A Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 432	It even looks like some abortion some guy cobbled together in his garage from a box of spare parts from a variety of different handguns. I'm sure ze Germans had something that looked production-ready from the start. America used to be able to do great things, but we started sucking when top management started signing off on "it's good enough" designs that tried to maximize production values from existing ideas so they could slap together something cheaply with already amortized equipment and R&D.

04-01-2019, 12:37 PM	#5
MrKalashnikov Deplorable Join Date: May 2008 Location: Behind The Iron Curtain Posts: 8,053	Why try to reinvent the wheel when you have proven performers out there like Glock & SIG?

04-09-2019, 07:25 AM	#6
2rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,504	Kinda pitiful.