Here come da Judge! Army is looking for some .410 revolvers

[Sanders]

Interesting thing I found while looking for other opportunities:

Solicitation Number:
W15QKN-10-X-0460
Notice Type:
Sources Sought
Synopsis:
Added: Jun 22, 2010 1:57 pm
FedBizOpps notice Date: 2010-22-06

Sources Sought Synopsis

The U.S. Army, Joint Munitions & Lethality Contracting Center is seeking information about commercial off-the-shelf revolvers with 4 or more shots,which can accommodate ammunition with a length of 2.25". In addition, the cylinder should be sized to accommodate .410 bore shot-shells or larger. The focus of this revolver is to be versatile enough to fire cartridge projectiles, shot-shells and small flares.

Information about existing production revolvers and/or revolvers and associated ammunition of this type that are currently in development is also desired.

Interested parties are requested to submit a description of their product(s)along with other available information (sketches, drawings, specifications,brochures, and/or test results that describe current capability/on-goingdevelopment) to: U.S. Army ARDEC, ATTN: Kenneth Beatty, Contract Specialist,U.S. Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Contracting Center, Soldier WeaponsContracting Center, CCJM-SW, Building 9, Picatinny Arsenal, N.J. 07806-5000EMAIL ADDRESS ken.beatty@us.army.mil.

This Market Survey is for information and planning purposes only, and does notconstitute a Request for Proposal (RFP). This Market Survey is not to beconstrued as a commitment by the U. S. Government. If a formal solicitationis generated at a later date, a solicitation notice will be published. Noaward will be made as a result of this Market Survey. All information is tobe submitted at no cost or obligation to the Government. The Governmentreserves the right to reject, in whole or in part, any private sector input asa result of this Market Survey. Respondents will not be notified of theresults of this survey or results of information submitted.

Please submit your responses NLT 1400 (2:00 PM) EST, 7 July 2010.

Additional Info:
US ARMY Contracting Command JM&L CC-Picatinny Procurement Network

[baboon]

Stupid beyond words!

[Desert Rat]

An idea whose time has not come.

[Pogo]

I wonder what they have in mind to do with them?

[10 Bears]

Originally Posted by Pogo

I wonder what they have in mind to do with them?

Probably an interrogation tool, threaten to shoot someone with it, using the shotshell.
Close range, they would think they are really hurt.
Then ask the raghead if they want shot again?

[Czubek]

Originally Posted by 10 Bears

Probably an interrogation tool, threaten to shoot someone with it, using the shotshell.
Close range, they would think they are really hurt.
Then ask the Conservative if they want shot again?

Fixed it.

Brian

[rice paddy daddy]

Originally Posted by Pogo

I wonder what they have in mind to do with them?

Possibly aircrew survival weapon? Never having been aircrew I don't know what they currently use.

[gunnysmith]

Replacing this

And this

with this

Seems sound to me.

[5knives]

gunnysmith got it in one

There could be no other rational reason!

Almost makes sense from the chairborne deskpilot point of view.

Of course we ARE talking about DOD and DOA here ...

Think most aircrew would be content to add "The Judge" to the bailout/crash package, and hang onto the issue handgun and /or carbine for "sentimental" reasons.

As always , JMHO, YMMV.

Regards,
...

[Pogo]

The AF hasn't used the M6 Survival Rifle for a long time. But I would rather have it than the Judge. If you were using a .410 flare, you could shoot it out of the M6. And you also had the .22 Hornet round which is a fairly effective round.

I wonder what they did with all of the ones they used to use? I'd like to have one to go with my stainless steel version. Of course the originals would need a SBR stamp because the barrel in the AF version was only 14".

[AKWARRIOR]

I agree with pogo.The firearm is for survival.The M6 is a better choice over a pistol any day in that situation.Why go to the trouble of acquiring something that isn't needed.Pilots are typically armed with an M9 or Sig 228.They don't need another handgun.I think this is a really stupid idea on DOD's part.

[Glock AK47son]

Originally Posted by gunnysmith

Replacing this

And this

with this

Seems sound to me.

Would it not be more versatile to buy a three inch shell variant? More types of ammo you can use, too. The 6 inch barrel's mass also would help to dissipate some of the kick, too.