Several killed, cars crushed in Florida foot bridge collapse - Page 3

JD Miller · 03-16-2018, 01:27 PM

Wow I was thinking maybe the failure was at the mounting points at the ends of the bridge.

The video looks like just complete structural weakness and failure, Like it was dynamited

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Stalky · 03-16-2018, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dinkydow

Or:

"Look...all of these grade eight bolts from red china.. deform..and bend.. when you hit them with a hammer!"

Practically non existent now but the Lake Erie bolts were the best.
Bolt head had LE on it to identify. Sad about the people tho.

Diesel 88888888 · 03-16-2018, 01:55 PM

https://canadafreepress.com/article/...erm=2018-03-16

Father of Collapsed Florida Bridge was Obama 'Champion of Change' in 2015!

Quoting from 'dukas' in the comment section I found this:

"Common sense tells me this bridge was designed by a fool. Anyone who has built and installed a shelf and used an arm to hold it up, knows the furthest outward point takes the most stress and can carry the least weight, on a straight run; every joint of this cement folly should have been directly supported. The cement arms at each end were only as strong as their thinnest part of them that ran down into the footing. The middle of the bridge had the most weight/pressure, not the ends. The braces were only calculated to hold the ends; downward pressure. The pressure came from the middle. You can see it in the rubble.

Any designs that follows this procedure should be cancelled immediately and the designer should loss his influence, ability and be sued directly.

Think of ancient doorways with the curve above the door; the reason for the curve was to support the stone above it. It would have been easier for the masons to run a brace directly across but even back then they were smart enough to know it would fail. This bridge was designed by a lazy mind. Those that ignore the past..."

4thIDvet · 03-16-2018, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel 88888888

https://canadafreepress.com/article/...erm=2018-03-16

Father of Collapsed Florida Bridge was Obama 'Champion of Change' in 2015!

Quoting from 'dukas' in the comment section I found this:

"Common sense tells me this bridge was designed by a fool.

Designed by a fool? No Diesel he was and affirmative action hire from the X-HNICs regime. Yup here is your degree go forth and kill you stupid negro.

mr-ak-47 · 03-16-2018, 03:07 PM

....I just hope a laws regarding hiring that affirmative action and divisity were followed....

....bet every wetback working on that thing ran back is mexico.....or where every the fuck they came from....

.....

Diesel 88888888 · 03-16-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 4thIDvet

Designed by a fool? No Diesel he was and affirmative action hire from the X-HNICs regime. Yup here is your degree go forth and kill you stupid negro.

Looking at his published pictures I couldn't tell what he was...n!gger...maybe, Iranian Christian...maybe. He's been sued over civil rights issues at the University...mistreated a poor dam Hatian n!gger, n alls dey don be though!

Google his name...amazing stuff comes up. He was the head of the University Engineering Department...really pushed for this kind of design and construction. (I thought he might be an islamic at first, maybe using bad designs to kill us Infidels!)

aviator · 03-16-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel 88888888

https://canadafreepress.com/article/...erm=2018-03-16

Father of Collapsed Florida Bridge was Obama 'Champion of Change' in 2015!

Quoting from 'dukas' in the comment section I found this:

"Common sense tells me this bridge was designed by a fool. Anyone who has built and installed a shelf and used an arm to hold it up, knows the furthest outward point takes the most stress and can carry the least weight, on a straight run; every joint of this cement folly should have been directly supported. The cement arms at each end were only as strong as their thinnest part of them that ran down into the footing. The middle of the bridge had the most weight/pressure, not the ends. The braces were only calculated to hold the ends; downward pressure. The pressure came from the middle. You can see it in the rubble.

Any designs that follows this procedure should be cancelled immediately and the designer should loss his influence, ability and be sued directly.

Think of ancient doorways with the curve above the door; the reason for the curve was to support the stone above it. It would have been easier for the masons to run a brace directly across but even back then they were smart enough to know it would fail. This bridge was designed by a lazy mind. Those that ignore the past..."

The reason for the curvature in a bridge is to add compression and keep it together, there is always a load factor distributed throughout, being greatest at the center, but the forces get dissipated at the end, so you are right on your explanation

Diesel 88888888 · 03-16-2018, 04:25 PM

There is a whole lot more to the article than the one 'comment' I quoted...I'm thinking that this is the end, at least for now, of this form of construction/engineering.

Stalky · 03-16-2018, 04:52 PM

Try to explain to an idiot about structural integrity that has a degree. Shear forces,stress factors.
You can't. They know it all since they are bonafide engineers from Va Tech.
They can hang a floating staircase on a piece of chink aluminum rated for 40# of stretch.

4thIDvet · 03-16-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mr-ak-47

....I just hope a laws regarding hiring that affirmative action and divisity were followed....

....bet every wetback working on that thing ran back is mexico.....or where every the fuck they came from....

.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel 88888888

There is a whole lot more to the article than the one 'comment' I quoted...I'm thinking that this is the end, at least for now, of this form of construction/engineering.::

Companies behind Florida bridge collapse have history of fines, failures, lawsuits

The two firms responsible for building Florida International University’s "instant bridge," which suddenly collapsed Thursday and left six people dead, are coming under increased scrutiny as details emerge of past engineering failures and inspection fines -- including a recent accusation that one hired “unskilled” and “careless” workers.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/16...-lawsuits.html

"Pablo what does this say?" "I don't know I don't read Gringo just ignore it."

dinkydow · 03-16-2018, 05:33 PM

There is a bridge over I-76 in Akron. I am quite familiar with reading stress fractures in rock or concrete...Every time I am sitting on that bridge/overpass I can feel the quite pronounced vibrations moving through the bridge being generated by the traffic using it...steel is a very dynamic material....but not using ENOUGH of it.... or if it is improperly supported.... and it SINGS and dances to, to large of an extent, and that inordinate and stressed movement generates stress cracks. looking at the poured concrete structures that form the "sidewalls" and mounting points for the 8'high chainlink fence that keeps the niqqrz and hillbillys from tossing bricks over onto passing cars...I cannot help but note the thousands of cracks in THAT concrete that indicate the directions of the stress being imparted to it. Straight down. This a bridge that is not yet ten years old. And it is coming apart.

I have stopped using that exit and that bridge because it is my thought that it is going down in the future.

Stalky · 03-16-2018, 06:18 PM

Anyone else recall the swaying bridge that seemed to float around before collapsing?
Was it in Washington state maybe? Scary chit.

aviator · 03-16-2018, 07:27 PM

According to the 5 PM news:

Employee conducting the Stress Test, while working for some engineering and testing company just happened to be.... (and they had a picture of him)................black.

the boy be dead now too.

Boris · 03-16-2018, 07:50 PM

what a tragedy,,I feel bad for the families of those killed and injured.
I would think if you do a stress test you close the road and bridge to any kind of traffic wouldn't you??,,unfortunately someone really screwed up this from the word go and heads (and lawsuits) will roll

Diesel 88888888 · 03-16-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stalky

Anyone else recall the swaying bridge that seemed to float around before collapsing?
Was it in Washington state maybe? Scary chit.

"Galloping Gertie" over the Tacoma Narrows, 1940...opened July 1, 1940, collapsed November 7. You can see it on YouTube

03-16-2018, 01:27 PM	#31
JD Miller Fake Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: PNW Posts: 39,219	Wow I was thinking maybe the failure was at the mounting points at the ends of the bridge. The video looks like just complete structural weakness and failure, Like it was dynamited . __________________ .......

03-16-2018, 01:55 PM	#33
Diesel 88888888 slug Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 35,838	https://canadafreepress.com/article/...erm=2018-03-16 Father of Collapsed Florida Bridge was Obama 'Champion of Change' in 2015! Quoting from 'dukas' in the comment section I found this: "Common sense tells me this bridge was designed by a fool. Anyone who has built and installed a shelf and used an arm to hold it up, knows the furthest outward point takes the most stress and can carry the least weight, on a straight run; every joint of this cement folly should have been directly supported. The cement arms at each end were only as strong as their thinnest part of them that ran down into the footing. The middle of the bridge had the most weight/pressure, not the ends. The braces were only calculated to hold the ends; downward pressure. The pressure came from the middle. You can see it in the rubble. Any designs that follows this procedure should be cancelled immediately and the designer should loss his influence, ability and be sued directly. Think of ancient doorways with the curve above the door; the reason for the curve was to support the stone above it. It would have been easier for the masons to run a brace directly across but even back then they were smart enough to know it would fail. This bridge was designed by a lazy mind. Those that ignore the past..." __________________ Diesel 88888888 Duty is Action; Fight Or Die! Fight Or I'll Kill You Myself!

03-16-2018, 03:07 PM	#35
mr-ak-47 Massa di Avatars Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: In another Galaxy, another dimension, another time Posts: 25,604	....I just hope a laws regarding hiring that affirmative action and divisity were followed.... ....bet every wetback working on that thing ran back is mexico.....or where every the fuck they came from.... ..... __________________ . One person says something stupid, and the other stupid people hear him, and the next thing you know, you're getting tortured in a gulag. Welcome to democracy, where your rights depend on the howling of the mob. .

03-16-2018, 05:33 PM	#41
dinkydow Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 96,493	There is a bridge over I-76 in Akron. I am quite familiar with reading stress fractures in rock or concrete...Every time I am sitting on that bridge/overpass I can feel the quite pronounced vibrations moving through the bridge being generated by the traffic using it...steel is a very dynamic material....but not using ENOUGH of it.... or if it is improperly supported.... and it SINGS and dances to, to large of an extent, and that inordinate and stressed movement generates stress cracks. looking at the poured concrete structures that form the "sidewalls" and mounting points for the 8'high chainlink fence that keeps the niqqrz and hillbillys from tossing bricks over onto passing cars...I cannot help but note the thousands of cracks in THAT concrete that indicate the directions of the stress being imparted to it. Straight down. This a bridge that is not yet ten years old. And it is coming apart. I have stopped using that exit and that bridge because it is my thought that it is going down in the future. __________________ Our forefathers would have already been shooting...by now. "Let your plans be dark and as impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." "Violence of action means the unrestricted use of speed,strength, surprise and aggression to achieve total dominance against your enemy...any fighting technique is useless unless you totally commit to violence of action." Burning huts in commy vills worldwide since 1968

03-16-2018, 07:50 PM	#44
Boris Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N Michigan Posts: 11,036	what a tragedy,,I feel bad for the families of those killed and injured. I would think if you do a stress test you close the road and bridge to any kind of traffic wouldn't you??,,unfortunately someone really screwed up this from the word go and heads (and lawsuits) will roll __________________ The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” Patrick Henry

03-16-2018, 04:25 PM	#38
Diesel 88888888 slug Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 35,838	There is a whole lot more to the article than the one 'comment' I quoted...I'm thinking that this is the end, at least for now, of this form of construction/engineering.

03-16-2018, 04:52 PM	#39
Stalky Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 8,076	Try to explain to an idiot about structural integrity that has a degree. Shear forces,stress factors. You can't. They know it all since they are bonafide engineers from Va Tech. They can hang a floating staircase on a piece of chink aluminum rated for 40# of stretch.

03-16-2018, 06:18 PM	#42
Stalky Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 8,076	Anyone else recall the swaying bridge that seemed to float around before collapsing? Was it in Washington state maybe? Scary chit.

03-16-2018, 07:27 PM	#43
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,491	According to the 5 PM news: Employee conducting the Stress Test, while working for some engineering and testing company just happened to be.... (and they had a picture of him)................black. the boy be dead now too.