Well, I had to do it - new shotgun: Beretta Outlander A300

Sanders · 03-22-2014, 10:54 PM

The only long shotgun I have to shoot for upland hunting and clays is an Ithaca M37 made in 1939.

It's been running a little rough, lately --- especially with the new "low brass" aluminum base shells, which tend to stick in the chamber unless I am extremely generous with the oil.

I'd been saving up for a while, and went to the gun shop with the intention of purchasing a Stoeger semi-auto, but they were sold out of them except for the camo model. I'm not too enthused about the camo guns - it is just personal preference. So, I handled the other guns in the same price range, and then picked up the Beretta. It just felt right. It was about $100 more than the Stoeger, but it is likely the last hunting shotgun I'll ever buy.

I was tempted by the over-unders, but none of them felt quite right compared to the Charles Daly/Miroku I used to have.

No reason to take pics - it is just a black gun. The stock photos are on Beretta's website here: http://www.berettausa.com/products/b...c-12ga-28-mc3/

I also like the idea of supporting a company that told the anti-gun state (Maryland) they are located in to fluff-off, they were moving out.

SNAFU · 03-23-2014, 05:15 AM

That looks like a solid shotgun.

I never thought of berretta as a option but a quick google search shows them to be reliable and economical.

Well. Now I have another one for the list.

Let us know how it shoots!

Czubek · 03-23-2014, 06:09 AM

Dang nice, Sanders!

Brian

Sanders · 03-23-2014, 07:45 AM

Another big deciding factor was that the Beretta is American made and the Stoeger is made in Turkey.

American-made or muslime-made gun...hmmmmmmm - no brainer for a

member.

WFO2 · 03-23-2014, 10:50 AM

Nice shotgun has the same gas system as my AL391.

buzgun · 03-23-2014, 11:00 AM

nice shotty Sanders

Sanders · 03-23-2014, 01:15 PM

I went out and put a box of shells through it this morning, and it ran without a hiccup. I'm going to have to get used to the different loading procedure - drop one in the chamber, drop the bolt, then load the other 2 in the magazine.

I can't wait to get out and knock some clay pigeons out of the air with it, though.

Gus · 03-23-2014, 01:55 PM

I like your final decision Sanders.

That shotgun will also put a bad guys internals on a wall behind him if necessary.

Also works on the head ... the whole flippin head

Cleanup in hallway.

Bring a mop an bucket please.

Sanders · 03-23-2014, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gus

I like your final decision Sanders.

That shotgun will also put a bad guys internals on a wall behind him if necessary.

Also works on the head ... the whole flippin head

Cleanup in hallway.

Bring a mop an bucket please.

While this one will do that quite nicely, I have a Mossberg 590 w/ 9 round mag, a 20" bbl., ghost sights, and a Streamlight flashlight on it that is dedicated to that proposition.

10 Bears · 04-06-2014, 03:35 PM

Well done, I am another who thinks you made a good choice.

Just received the Winchester catalog, dayum, I can't believe the prices on new firearms.

Sanders · 04-14-2014, 12:30 PM

This gun just keeps getting smoother with use. I could almost swear the recoil has lessened as well. For a 12 gauge, it has very little recoil, anyway.

I cleaned it and was surprised at how little gunk there was in it for a gas operated gun. It makes very good use of the powder, and is very efficient. Maybe it really is self-cleaning as they advertise? Still, it's a good idea to keep the barrel clean of plastic wadding residue.

I ran another 150 through it, yesterday. It didn't have so much as a single hiccup. All Estate 7-1/2 target/hunting loads.

I also ordered a couple extended, ported chokes by Carlson - one in Skeet and one in "Light Modified". But I think I'll get my fundamentals down before I start trying to play the change-a-choke game. I believe those 2 chokes will cover most ranges - plus dropping the shot size down to 8 may give me a little more shot on target.

500grains · 04-19-2014, 09:08 PM

I too love the Ithaca Model 37. However, I am afraid to try new shotguns because they might make me not like the Model 37 any more.

10 Bears · 04-19-2014, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 500grains

I too love the Ithaca Model 37. However, I am afraid to try new shotguns because they might make me not like the Model 37 any more.

Well, the Model 37 is a tried and true shotgun. That model has been around for a long time and changes have only been cosmetic.

If it fits, don't quit!

Sanders · 04-21-2014, 11:19 AM

I'll always love the M37, and it will be my go-to gun for quail hunting as it has a full choke barrel.

Maybe. The Beretta is really growing on me. I wish I'd bought the wood-stocked version, but at the time I didn't know it was offered with a wood stock. I checked the Beretta web site to see if I could buy just the stock, but didn't see it offered for my model.

So, I think I may just paint it Coyote Tan with some Brownell's Alumahyde II I have in the garage.

03-22-2014, 10:54 PM	#1
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,447	Well, I had to do it - new shotgun: Beretta Outlander A300 The only long shotgun I have to shoot for upland hunting and clays is an Ithaca M37 made in 1939. It's been running a little rough, lately --- especially with the new "low brass" aluminum base shells, which tend to stick in the chamber unless I am extremely generous with the oil. I'd been saving up for a while, and went to the gun shop with the intention of purchasing a Stoeger semi-auto, but they were sold out of them except for the camo model. I'm not too enthused about the camo guns - it is just personal preference. So, I handled the other guns in the same price range, and then picked up the Beretta. It just felt right. It was about $100 more than the Stoeger, but it is likely the last hunting shotgun I'll ever buy. I was tempted by the over-unders, but none of them felt quite right compared to the Charles Daly/Miroku I used to have. No reason to take pics - it is just a black gun. The stock photos are on Beretta's website here: http://www.berettausa.com/products/b...c-12ga-28-mc3/ I also like the idea of supporting a company that told the anti-gun state (Maryland) they are located in to fluff-off, they were moving out. __________________ "The truly dangerous man dresses inconspicuously and is soft- spoken. He walks away from most confrontations. The only time you learn that the truly dangerous man is mad at you is a split second before you die, for he never fights. He only kills. The truly dangerous man knows that fighting is what children do and killing is what men do." - Charley Reese 1986 3

03-23-2014, 06:09 AM	#3
Czubek slug Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stover, Missouri Posts: 33,622	Dang nice, Sanders! Brian __________________ 3 Here at the Dirty Dozen's Bunker, we have no problems, only solutions.

03-23-2014, 11:00 AM	#6
buzgun slug Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25,638	nice shotty Sanders __________________ Better Dead than Red

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500grains Soldier of Allah Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Crackerland Posts: 31,662	I too love the Ithaca Model 37. However, I am afraid to try new shotguns because they might make me not like the Model 37 any more. __________________ Racism will keep you alive.

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03-23-2014, 05:15 AM	#2
SNAFU Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 98	That looks like a solid shotgun. I never thought of berretta as a option but a quick google search shows them to be reliable and economical. Well. Now I have another one for the list. Let us know how it shoots!

03-23-2014, 07:45 AM	#4
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,447	Another big deciding factor was that the Beretta is American made and the Stoeger is made in Turkey. American-made or muslime-made gun...hmmmmmmm - no brainer for a member.

03-23-2014, 10:50 AM	#5
WFO2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Heart Of Texas Posts: 2,187	Nice shotgun has the same gas system as my AL391.

03-23-2014, 01:15 PM	#7
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,447	I went out and put a box of shells through it this morning, and it ran without a hiccup. I'm going to have to get used to the different loading procedure - drop one in the chamber, drop the bolt, then load the other 2 in the magazine. I can't wait to get out and knock some clay pigeons out of the air with it, though.

03-23-2014, 01:55 PM	#8
Gus Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 66,849	I like your final decision Sanders. That shotgun will also put a bad guys internals on a wall behind him if necessary. Also works on the head ... the whole flippin head Cleanup in hallway. Bring a mop an bucket please.

04-06-2014, 03:35 PM	#10
10 Bears Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: E-Da-How Posts: 137,846	Well done, I am another who thinks you made a good choice. Just received the Winchester catalog, dayum, I can't believe the prices on new firearms.

04-14-2014, 12:30 PM	#11
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,447	This gun just keeps getting smoother with use. I could almost swear the recoil has lessened as well. For a 12 gauge, it has very little recoil, anyway. I cleaned it and was surprised at how little gunk there was in it for a gas operated gun. It makes very good use of the powder, and is very efficient. Maybe it really is self-cleaning as they advertise? Still, it's a good idea to keep the barrel clean of plastic wadding residue. I ran another 150 through it, yesterday. It didn't have so much as a single hiccup. All Estate 7-1/2 target/hunting loads. I also ordered a couple extended, ported chokes by Carlson - one in Skeet and one in "Light Modified". But I think I'll get my fundamentals down before I start trying to play the change-a-choke game. I believe those 2 chokes will cover most ranges - plus dropping the shot size down to 8 may give me a little more shot on target.

04-21-2014, 11:19 AM	#14
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,447	I'll always love the M37, and it will be my go-to gun for quail hunting as it has a full choke barrel. Maybe. The Beretta is really growing on me. I wish I'd bought the wood-stocked version, but at the time I didn't know it was offered with a wood stock. I checked the Beretta web site to see if I could buy just the stock, but didn't see it offered for my model. So, I think I may just paint it Coyote Tan with some Brownell's Alumahyde II I have in the garage.