Ouija Boards: Harmless toy or doorway to the demonic?

Zane Zackerly · 04-06-2006, 11:03 AM

The Ouija Debate
From Stephen Wagner,
Your Guide to Paranormal Phenomena.

Portal to evil or harmless game?

THERE’S AN ongoing debate about the powers and realities of the Ouija board. Essentially, there are three basic positions:
It is inherently dangerous, can open portals to evil entities and should never be used.

It is only dangerous if used with evil intent, but can be a useful tool for spirit mediumship if used properly and with good intent.

It is inherently harmless and has no real powers of mediumship for good or evil; its effects, if any, are only psychological in nature.

Which is true? Talk to any group of people and you’ll find strong proponents for each argument. A few years ago, I conducted a survey of readers on this subject. It results showed that 65 percent of those who responded felt the Ouija was dangerous, and 35% felt it was harmless.

aviator · 04-06-2006, 11:15 AM

It depends on who's using it and the intentions......I've seen some weird shit in my lifetime.

Icarus · 04-06-2006, 11:18 AM

Hmmmmmm, Let me look into the Crystal Ball for the answer.

TammiJ · 04-06-2006, 11:18 AM

It's those magic 8 balls that scare me...pure evil

http://www.flash-gear.com/8/index.php?r=113

5knives · 04-06-2006, 12:04 PM

Not toys, not harmless and potentially extremely dangerous to the people "playing" with them, IMO.

Whether to external entities or internal conflicts and urges, they can open doors better left closed.

Seriously bad news!

The people who have bad experiences with them aren't just frightened, they seem to end up terrified.

Whether the experiences are objective or subjective, they seem to always end up as bad.

I could do a few hundred pages on the subject, which no one would be very interested in reading, on the topic of at the very least, swinging wide the doors to the deepest sub-conscious, without any of the protection that Religious ritual and protocol would provide, is ... unwise.

Personally, one or two experiences with one as a child, convinced me that "playing" with one was a fine example of a very bad idea.

Several others forms of scrying and divination appear to have the same inherent potential for harm to the practitioner. But it seems to occur very easily with the ouija board, perhaps from the physical sensation of the planchette moving forcefully while all deny moving it intentionally provides some kind of reenforcing feedback.

Ouija boards, are pretty near the top of my personal "Burn Before Reading" security classification list.

Others might just classify them as "Evil", I wouldn't argue with that!

Regards,

Preacher · 04-06-2006, 12:16 PM

Ditto to what 5Knives said. Ouija Boards are extremely dangerous and demons are nothing to mess with unless you know what the heck you are doing!!! I won't even allow a board in my house, and I know what I'm doing.

Demons are real, but that's as far as I'm going with it.

aviator · 04-06-2006, 12:58 PM

Not necessarily demons

, believe me......let me tell you a story:

When I was a teenager my mother found one in a house we had just bought, now, my mother as my father and myself are basically non-believers of anything, we always say that there may be a creator who started the whole ball of wax rolling, but we have problems following written words.

Anyhow; My mother asked me if I would join her on using that thing. Sure enough, it worked and started answering all kinds of qustions, so I said to her "This is BS, we are subconciously controlling it, let's do it with our eyes closed and get a third party to write things down"

Here comes dad, who was a total non-believer, specially about supernatural things and we made him sit down with a pad and pencil, meanwhile he's laughing and saying we are full of shit.

We started.

First question: is anyone there?
Answer: Yes
Q: Can you tell us your name?
A: Roger

Dad goes: Oh shit! My cousin? (meantime mom and I do not see what's going on).
A: Yes
Then My dad asked him some private questions that neither my mom or I knew the answers, and the answers were there.

Roger had been dead now for some time, a fatal heart attack at age 30 or so while he was in the military as a doctor.

So my dad went on to ask him about his father's health and "Roger" explained that his father was sick. My dad made a long distance phone call and sure enough the old man was very sick.

That was my first and last experience with the darn thing, my father threw it out right after that.

Too bad Florida didn't have a Lotto back then.

eldogg · 04-06-2006, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TammiJ

It's those magic 8 balls that scare me...pure evil

http://www.flash-gear.com/8/index.php?r=113

i keep an majic 8 ball under the parts counter for those "special" customers. i also have a ouiji board. i got it as a present when i was about 15. i still have it in the top of the closet. it's probobly been out of the box twice. someone need some special powers?

Sanders · 04-06-2006, 02:49 PM

Even Art Bell advises against messing with them...and he's seen most everything.

Spacecraft

Bulletboy · 04-06-2006, 02:52 PM

Personally had a couple experiences with the board just like aviator and 5knives, and I know of many more. I studied the occult quite extensively back then. Something happened one day that terrified me enough to completely cut all that out. I mean the kind of terror where you cant move, and you try and scream but nothing comes out. That particular day wasnt from the Ouija board, but we got rid of it just the same.

Zane Zackerly · 04-06-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulletboy

Personally had a couple experiences with the board just like aviator and 5knives, and I know of many more. I studied the occult quite extensively back then. Something happened one day that terrified me enough to completely cut all that out. I mean the kind of terror where you cant move, and you try and scream but nothing comes out. That particular day wasnt from the Ouija board, but we got rid of it just the same.

I gotta hear this one...

Bulletboy · 04-06-2006, 03:13 PM

Heh, I'd never open myself up to quite that much ridicule

well, maybe a little. Seriously though, at the time I had been doing some stupid things regarding that stuff, you know, trying to get something "tangible" to happen. Before too long I started getting a creeped out feeling, but it was constant, like there was somebody behind me all the time. One day I sort of saw some stuff that may very well have been my mind playing tricks on me, but it sure as hell did the trick. I even threw away all my reference materials. Now, I'm not talking anything crazy, like seeing creatures, or anything, but thats the thing, it tries to appear normal. I actually prefer to believe it was my imagination, because I couldnt sleep for days. I had always been interested in that stuff, I had nightmares every night of my life until I was about 15 or 17 maybe. I still love watching the ghost hunters show on discovery, and I will (and have) gone to any supposedly haunted place I can find out about.

aviator · 04-06-2006, 03:20 PM

Well, mine wasn't a bad experience, just "strange".

Bulletboy · 04-06-2006, 03:32 PM

Yeah my experiences with the ouija werent scary, just interesting. for example, we got it to tell us what was on tv on various channels, and then we checked it with the tv guide and it was right. We made a point to keep it light natured. It (and the nightmares) was part of what got me into all that in the beginning.

charger0122 · 04-06-2006, 03:48 PM

i got one siting on my desk right now i think its made by parker brothers.never used it tho.

04-06-2006, 11:03 AM	#1
Zane Zackerly The Mad Messenger Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great State of Insanity Posts: 4,222	Ouija Boards: Harmless toy or doorway to the demonic? The Ouija Debate From Stephen Wagner, Your Guide to Paranormal Phenomena. Portal to evil or harmless game? THERE’S AN ongoing debate about the powers and realities of the Ouija board. Essentially, there are three basic positions: It is inherently dangerous, can open portals to evil entities and should never be used. It is only dangerous if used with evil intent, but can be a useful tool for spirit mediumship if used properly and with good intent. It is inherently harmless and has no real powers of mediumship for good or evil; its effects, if any, are only psychological in nature. Which is true? Talk to any group of people and you’ll find strong proponents for each argument. A few years ago, I conducted a survey of readers on this subject. It results showed that 65 percent of those who responded felt the Ouija was dangerous, and 35% felt it was harmless.

04-06-2006, 11:15 AM	#2
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,383	It depends on who's using it and the intentions......I've seen some weird shit in my lifetime. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Pesident Ronald Reagan

04-06-2006, 12:16 PM	#6
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	Ditto to what 5Knives said. Ouija Boards are extremely dangerous and demons are nothing to mess with unless you know what the heck you are doing!!! I won't even allow a board in my house, and I know what I'm doing. Demons are real, but that's as far as I'm going with it. __________________ You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done. Ronald Reagan - 1964 ------------------------------------- Bunker Member #4.

04-06-2006, 02:49 PM	#9
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,459	Even Art Bell advises against messing with them...and he's seen most everything. Spacecraft __________________ "The truly dangerous man dresses inconspicuously and is soft- spoken. He walks away from most confrontations. The only time you learn that the truly dangerous man is mad at you is a split second before you die, for he never fights. He only kills. The truly dangerous man knows that fighting is what children do and killing is what men do." - Charley Reese 1986 3

04-06-2006, 03:48 PM	#15
charger0122 SUMBITCH Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: GEORGIA Posts: 129	i got one siting on my desk right now i think its made by parker brothers.never used it tho. __________________ I drank enough whiskey to float a battleship around Ronnie Van Zant

04-06-2006, 11:18 AM	#3
Icarus BUNKER FUNKER Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UP SHIT CREEK Posts: 3,534	Hmmmmmm, Let me look into the Crystal Ball for the answer.

04-06-2006, 11:18 AM	#4
TammiJ No Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 330	It's those magic 8 balls that scare me...pure evil http://www.flash-gear.com/8/index.php?r=113

04-06-2006, 12:04 PM	#5
5knives KaBoom Kontrol Modulator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Colorado, Western Slope Posts: 16,229	Not toys, not harmless and potentially extremely dangerous to the people "playing" with them, IMO. Whether to external entities or internal conflicts and urges, they can open doors better left closed. Seriously bad news! The people who have bad experiences with them aren't just frightened, they seem to end up terrified. Whether the experiences are objective or subjective, they seem to always end up as bad. I could do a few hundred pages on the subject, which no one would be very interested in reading, on the topic of at the very least, swinging wide the doors to the deepest sub-conscious, without any of the protection that Religious ritual and protocol would provide, is ... unwise. Personally, one or two experiences with one as a child, convinced me that "playing" with one was a fine example of a very bad idea. Several others forms of scrying and divination appear to have the same inherent potential for harm to the practitioner. But it seems to occur very easily with the ouija board, perhaps from the physical sensation of the planchette moving forcefully while all deny moving it intentionally provides some kind of reenforcing feedback. Ouija boards, are pretty near the top of my personal "Burn Before Reading" security classification list. Others might just classify them as "Evil", I wouldn't argue with that! Regards,

04-06-2006, 12:58 PM	#7
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,383	Not necessarily demons , believe me......let me tell you a story: When I was a teenager my mother found one in a house we had just bought, now, my mother as my father and myself are basically non-believers of anything, we always say that there may be a creator who started the whole ball of wax rolling, but we have problems following written words. Anyhow; My mother asked me if I would join her on using that thing. Sure enough, it worked and started answering all kinds of qustions, so I said to her "This is BS, we are subconciously controlling it, let's do it with our eyes closed and get a third party to write things down" Here comes dad, who was a total non-believer, specially about supernatural things and we made him sit down with a pad and pencil, meanwhile he's laughing and saying we are full of shit. We started. First question: is anyone there? Answer: Yes Q: Can you tell us your name? A: Roger Dad goes: Oh shit! My cousin? (meantime mom and I do not see what's going on). A: Yes Then My dad asked him some private questions that neither my mom or I knew the answers, and the answers were there. Roger had been dead now for some time, a fatal heart attack at age 30 or so while he was in the military as a doctor. So my dad went on to ask him about his father's health and "Roger" explained that his father was sick. My dad made a long distance phone call and sure enough the old man was very sick. That was my first and last experience with the darn thing, my father threw it out right after that. Too bad Florida didn't have a Lotto back then.

04-06-2006, 02:52 PM	#10
Bulletboy Troubleshooter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wa. Posts: 3,369	Personally had a couple experiences with the board just like aviator and 5knives, and I know of many more. I studied the occult quite extensively back then. Something happened one day that terrified me enough to completely cut all that out. I mean the kind of terror where you cant move, and you try and scream but nothing comes out. That particular day wasnt from the Ouija board, but we got rid of it just the same.

04-06-2006, 03:13 PM	#12
Bulletboy Troubleshooter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wa. Posts: 3,369	Heh, I'd never open myself up to quite that much ridicule well, maybe a little. Seriously though, at the time I had been doing some stupid things regarding that stuff, you know, trying to get something "tangible" to happen. Before too long I started getting a creeped out feeling, but it was constant, like there was somebody behind me all the time. One day I sort of saw some stuff that may very well have been my mind playing tricks on me, but it sure as hell did the trick. I even threw away all my reference materials. Now, I'm not talking anything crazy, like seeing creatures, or anything, but thats the thing, it tries to appear normal. I actually prefer to believe it was my imagination, because I couldnt sleep for days. I had always been interested in that stuff, I had nightmares every night of my life until I was about 15 or 17 maybe. I still love watching the ghost hunters show on discovery, and I will (and have) gone to any supposedly haunted place I can find out about.

04-06-2006, 03:20 PM	#13
aviator unum de multis Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bunker's Headquarters. Posts: 52,383	Well, mine wasn't a bad experience, just "strange".

04-06-2006, 03:32 PM	#14
Bulletboy Troubleshooter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wa. Posts: 3,369	Yeah my experiences with the ouija werent scary, just interesting. for example, we got it to tell us what was on tv on various channels, and then we checked it with the tv guide and it was right. We made a point to keep it light natured. It (and the nightmares) was part of what got me into all that in the beginning.