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12-23-2012, 10:17 PM | #1 |
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Power in numbers?
Since where two or more are gathered, there He is. Does that mean prayer in groups is more effective?
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12-23-2012, 10:38 PM | #2 | |
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I do believe in the power of prayer, and perhaps a prayer circle's petition will be heard more often and therefore will be given a similar amount of consideration. I am convinced, of course, that ALL prayers are answered by God ~ frequently not in the way we mortals would have wished.
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12-23-2012, 10:44 PM | #3 |
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I had a prayer answered today
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The passage reconfirms God is everywhere.... Or omnipresent. Hope this makes sense. |
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02-02-2013, 07:02 AM | #5 |
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Thank you. I didn't realize the devil wasn't omnipresent.
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02-04-2013, 11:09 AM | #6 |
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02-07-2013, 07:21 AM | #7 |
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Prayer in groups is not a bad thing. In fact, it is very encouraging. I find it very uplifting to be around like believers all working toward a common goal. However, God's ways are not our ways.
Consider this. If there was power in numbers, would not a 32,000 man army be much stronger than a 300 man army? Human logic would say yes. But yet the Lord led Gideon to decrease the number of his army. He said that 32,000 was too many. So after a series of trimming, Gideon finally dwindled his numbers to 300 by keeping only those who drank water from the river like a dog. Of course, there are other things to consider in this story. If an army of 32,000 won the victory, then people would have praised the "power in numbers" theory and would have bragged on winning the battle of their own accord. But to win the battle with only 300 men would clearly show that God was with them. That's the main point of the story, but this passage is still relevant to your question. On the human side of things, have you ever worked with someone who did not know what they were doing? Oftentimes in a case like this, it simply is much easier to do things on your own than it to do it with "incorrect" help. Like, carrying something for instance. It is nearly impossible to carry a large object with someone who does not know how to lift or carry. It is very difficult moving something with "help" that jerks or tugs on the item that your are moving. As long as your body is physically capable of doing it, in this case it is much easier to just move the item yourself than it is with help. It is more important to have the right kind of help than it is to just have "warm bodies" filling the position. Kind of a quality over quantity type of situation. As much as I like seeing large groups worshiping, I would still rather be in a group of 2 or 3 sincere followers than a group of a 1000 fakes. As Sam already pointed out, the context of the passage you quoted simply means that God is with us whether we are part of a large group or even if we stand alone. Numbers mean nothing to God, as proven by the story of Gideon's army. He too would like to see "large" numbers turning to Him because it is His will that none should perish. But He has just as much power in a group of 2 or 3 as He has in groups of thousands. Hope this helps.
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