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Old 12-10-2017, 11:53 PM   #31
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4th, im just wanting to load black powder for the fun of it.......the loads i made up today and yesterday were with smokeless Unique powder....Im having trouble finding real black powder.
https://www.grafs.com/goex

http://www.blackpowderva.com/

ADD: I am reading on muzzle loading forums that some Bass Pros shops carry real black powder but it is not on display you have to ask for it?
Most all are saying fun to shoot the real stuff but yuk super super dirty.
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https://www.grafs.com/goex

http://www.blackpowderva.com/

ADD: I am reading on muzzle loading forums that some Bass Pros shops carry real black powder but it is not on display you have to ask for it?
Most all are saying fun to shoot the real stuff but yuk super super dirty.
The real stuff is not only more fun to shoot, it performs better than the synthetic stuff. Accuracy is way better with real blackpowder.

Who cares if it is dirty, anyway? Nothing a little hot, soapy water can't take care of. If I'm out in the field, I use Butch's Blackpowder cleaner. All it is is soapy water in a bottle, but it works well enough.
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Im going to find the real black powder boys.......i know of a place in phoenix that sells it....the problem is its a 90 min drive from where i live......every thing is very spread out here and loooong driving distances are the norm when your looking for something specific like this that cant be shipped to you.
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Im going to find the real black powder boys.......i know of a place in phoenix that sells it....the problem is its a 90 min drive from where i live......every thing is very spread out here and loooong driving distances are the norm when your looking for something specific like this that cant be shipped to you.
buz I think Graf will ship with the hazmat fee? Hell the fee will be less than the drive if they do ship.
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Old 12-11-2017, 11:44 AM   #35
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Real black powder smoke smells better too
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Here is what I use, hot water with powder dish washer soap. Cascade is the brand name. Rinse well afterwards and dry.
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Im going to find the real black powder boys.......i know of a place in phoenix that sells it....the problem is its a 90 min drive from where i live......every thing is very spread out here and loooong driving distances are the norm when your looking for something specific like this that cant be shipped to you.
Unless I catch my "connection" at a muzzleloader shoot, for me to buy real black powder is a 5 hr. drive and the place has a minimum 10 lb. purchase. You have to call ahead so they can go pick it up from their secure storage bunker.
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Unless I catch my "connection" at a muzzleloader shoot, for me to buy real black powder is a 5 hr. drive and the place has a minimum 10 lb. purchase. You have to call ahead so they can go pick it up from their secure storage bunker.
I jut got back from the mesa AZ bass proshop....nothing but pyrodex P.

I did buy 200 more starline .45 colt brass cases and some storage boxes however....Ill just shoot with unique until i can find black powder.
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I jut got back from the mesa AZ bass proshop....nothing but pyrodex P.

I did buy 200 more starline .45 colt brass cases and some storage boxes however....Ill just shoot with unique until i can find black powder.
I know that there are "Shooting Organizations" in Arizona.
Especially BP clubs, in the "Fast Draw" category.
Used to be anyway. BP and wax bullets or Dacron cups.(bullets)
Join one of them, they often have group buys, to offset HAZMAT charges.
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I know that there are "Shooting Organizations" in Arizona.
Especially BP clubs, in the "Fast Draw" category.
Used to be anyway. BP and wax bullets or Dacron cups.(bullets)
Join one of them, they often have group buys, to offset HAZMAT charges.
There is apparently only one place in the entire phoenix valley to get real black powder.......it is called Thunderbird cartridge company in Laveen........that is over an hour drive from me each way.

And after calling them up they need 3 hrs notice to travel to their powder magazine to pull the powder to sell it to me.
Also the brand of BP they carry is shutzman??.....never heard of it.
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Probably this stuff, made in Germany: http://www.schuetzenpowder.com/

I'd drive 2 hours for a couple pounds of it. Better than 10 hours (5 each way) for a 10 lb. minimum.
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Don't run black powder through the powder measure. Pour it into the brass measuring powder dispenser. There is a real danger of the black powder exploding being run through a powder measure designed for smokeless powder. I've known this to happen with dire effects.
I also have been made aware of THAT.
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There is a place in Lodi called ...I believe...log cabin sports.. that is a black powder freaks heaven. They have everything a black powder man could ask for. Parts to build your own, guns, powder, caps, nipples, shot, flints...it is not a small place.
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I finally got my hands on some Goex fffg and loaded 15 rounds with it to the top of the Colt.45 case.......the 250 grain lead bullets seated very easily as i compressed the powder down in the case.

The recoil is pretty stout......the Colt.45 must have been a magnum for its day because my repro colt 1860 cap and ball revolver doesn't seem like it has nearly that much power even with as much powder as i can fit into the cylinder and still seat a lead ball.
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3Fg is a stout powder, should have got some 2Fg for that load.
3F is too fast, especially with that amount of a charge.
How many grain did it come to? Around 100 or so?
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