Biden’s latest attack on our Second Amendment rights If they can ban ammunition, they won't need to ban guns

[Sanders]

Those who despise American gun ownership never seem to stop. Since they thankfully cannot ban firearms outright, politicians are now trying to ban cheap, commonly used ammunition and make hunting and shooting sports too costly for the average American.

The Biden administration has proposed a ban on lead ammunition on eight national wildlife refuges in the eastern United States. Obviously, this small-scale ban is a first step and will expand to the entire federal lands system (about 650 million surface acres or 30% of the country) if taken to its logical conclusion.

It is important to note from the onset that this has nothing to do with the 30-year-old ban on the use of lead ammunition for hunting waterfowl.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...endment-right/

[aviator]

I've been saying that for some time, ammo is not included in the second A.

[Sanders]

Originally Posted by aviator

I've been saying that for some time, ammo is not included in the second A.

Ironically, the Revolutionary War was kicked off when the government came to seize the powder and shot that belonged to the citizen's Militia. I figure the Founders thought we'd be smart enough to realize that "To keep and bear arms" included everything that goes with said arms, not just the arms themselves. They sure didn't foresee an ignorant populace governed by a bunch of scumbag lawyers.

[4thIDvet]

Like the 80% receivers they keep trying to ban. Next they would have to ban powder, primers, bullets, empty shells plus reloading equipment.
Reloading equipment sales will go through the damn roof $$. Reloaders will make a damn fortune. $$$
Hell LEGAL gun owners probably have more ammo stored than the U.S. Military? All it will do is slow down range times and criminals will still have ammo.

[44044]

Originally Posted by aviator

I've been saying that for some time, ammo is not included in the second A.

Would ammo not fall under

Well Regulated?...

At the time, the way that I understand,

Regulated meant in working order...

[Sanders]

The Bill of Rights is also not a list of things the government allows, but a list of things the people forbid the government to do to them. It is not from the government to the people, but from the people to the government.

[55chevy]

Originally Posted by Sanders

The Bill of Rights is also not a list of things the government allows, but a list of things the people forbid the government to do to them. It is not from the government to the people, but from the people to the government.

Assuming we still operate under the rule of law.

[Sanders]

Originally Posted by 55chevy

Assuming we still operate under the rule of law.

We are going on three generations now of Americans who are ignorant of what the Constitution even says, let alone who wrote it and why they wrote it the way they did ever since Civics was replaced in schools with "social studies".

[aviator]

Originally Posted by 44044

Would ammo not fall under

Well Regulated?...

At the time, the way that I understand,

Regulated meant in working order...

Perhaps but if interpreted by a liberal judge it may mean dress in drag and wear a wig.

[55chevy]

Originally Posted by Sanders

We are going on three generations now of Americans who are ignorant of what the Constitution even says, let alone who wrote it and why they wrote it the way they did ever since Civics was replaced in schools with "social studies".

Social studies should be called social reformation.

[4thIDvet]

Originally Posted by 44044

Would ammo not fall under

Well Regulated?...

At the time, the way that I understand,

Regulated meant in working order...

People also ask
What is considered a well regulated militia?
It means the militia was in an effective shape to fight." In other words, it didn't mean the state was controlling the militia in a certain way, but . rather that the militia was ready to do its duty.

What does well regulated militia mean in the 2nd Amendment?
A “well-regulated” militia simply meant that the processes for activating, training, and deploying the militia in official service should be efficient and orderly, and that the militia itself should be capable of competently executing battlefield operations.

https://www.heritage.org/the-essenti...d%20operations.

Good point 44044.
I would almost guarantee a lawyer could win a case just on that point.
that the militia itself should be capable of competently executing battlefield operations.
So if it mean to leave the ammo home then how could the militia be competent to carry out battlefield conditions????

[bill3542]

I've been reloading M2 ball equivalent for my sons CMP Garand.

150 done any another 350 to go... 150 grain FMJ bullets, BL-C2 powder and CCI primers.

I loaded 243 for my buddies grandson when he couldn't find it.

I loaded a shitload of 6.5 Creedmoor awhile back for my sons long distance shooter.

The biggest problem now is finding large rifle primers at all, primers should be around 3-4 dollars a box... Not 11 dollars a box if you can find them.

[Sanders]

Originally Posted by bill3542

I've been reloading M2 ball equivalent for my sons CMP Garand.

150 done any another 350 to go... 150 grain FMJ bullets, BL-C2 powder and CCI primers.

I loaded 243 for my buddies grandson when he couldn't find it.

I loaded a shitload of 6.5 Creedmoor awhile back for my sons long distance shooter.

The biggest problem now is finding large rifle primers at all, primers should be around 3-4 dollars a box... Not 11 dollars a box if you can find them.

I offered to load up a bunch of 6.8 SPC for my wife's uncle if he bought the dies and components. I even located them for him and sent him the links to make the purchases, but then he figured he'd rather go without than have any at all. He picked a bad time to try a new caliber - as the coof was hitting and the panic started.

[bill3542]

Originally Posted by Sanders

I offered to load up a bunch of 6.8 SPC for my wife's uncle if he bought the dies and components. I even located them for him and sent him the links to make the purchases, but then he figured he'd rather go without than have any at all. He picked a bad time to try a new caliber - as the coof was hitting and the panic started.

My buddy bought the dies, bullets, powder and primers for his grandsons 243 deer rifle, I loaded them for free. He's said my loads are than the factory ammo.